front strut length

[gaz20v]

just wondering if anyone can tell me if *a6* or xt130 front struts are a comparable size to ae71??

looking for a front end upgrade for cheap without changing to coilover. i.e using lowering springs in one of the above? has anyone done this??

need brakes to keep up with the GZE thats sittin in the garage itching to go in!!


any heap appreciated

[Jonny Rochester]

They are comparable. It depends on what brakes you want as to what route you go.

If you want vented brakes that are sort of ok and fit in a 13" wheel, get AE86 struts and steering knuckles, then get the JDM vented disks. Sort of on the small side...

If you want HiLux 4 spot calipers on a vented disk to fit in 14" wheels, get the XT130 struts, but you need to swap the strut tops. The corona brakes are a mild upgrade, then the 4 spots will sort of bolt on later.

For a GZE, you really need vented disks. The cheapest and most effective upgrade is what I did at one time:
XT130 struts, with the spring mount cut off and the corolla one welded on. Corolla top mount and strut top is used. Standard XT130 oil shock is used, but thicker 30 weight oil is used. Vented disk and hub from a YR21 Tarago, which bolts on. Tarago brake caliper, with a addapter bracket I made myself. (YR21 Tarago brakes look the same as JDM AE86, but bigger).

Order King springs to fit your Corolla, and specify the spring rate. They will send you any spring rate you want. Then if you want it lower, just chop off 1/4 of a coil.

[Hen is a total nutcase]

Another brake option on the XT130 strut is RA60 hubs and discs and MX62 calipers. Needs a little bit of machining and a spacer, but has been shown to work. There's a thread on toymods titled "$250 vented brake upgrade" or similar.

Johnny, how was camber affected with the XT130 struts? Do they add positive camber?

Hen

[Javal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hen is a total nutcase @ Jan 21 2008, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472186)</div>
Another brake option on the XT130 strut is RA60 hubs and discs and MX62 calipers. Needs a little bit of machining and a spacer, but has been shown to work. There's a thread on toymods titled "$250 vented brake upgrade" or similar.

Johnny, how was camber affected with the XT130 struts? Do they add positive camber?

Hen[/b]

I also believe Cruzida or someone similar on toymods are manufacturing a bracket so you can affix a Nissan 4 spot (R33/Z32/R32 GTR) to an XT130 strut (possibly MX62, my memory isn't that great) with a 300zx rotor (? maybe).

Will check and confirm in a minute.

[Hen is a total nutcase]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Javal @ Jan 21 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472229)</div>
I also believe Cruzida or someone similar on toymods are manufacturing a bracket so you can affix a Nissan 4 spot (R33/Z32/R32 GTR) to an XT130 strut (possibly MX62, my memory isn't that great) with a 300zx rotor (? maybe).[/b]
Not the XT130 strut. They are 90mm bolt spacing for the caliper. Nissan stuff is 100mm.

I think it was for RA60 or MX73 or something like that.

Hen

[Javal]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Javal @ Jan 21 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472229)
I also believe Cruzida or someone similar on toymods are manufacturing a bracket so you can affix a Nissan 4 spot (R33/Z32/R32 GTR) to an XT130 strut (possibly MX62, my memory isn't that great) with a 300zx rotor (? maybe).[/b]
Not the XT130 strut. They are 90mm bolt spacing for the caliper. Nissan stuff is 100mm.

I think it was for RA60 or MX73 or something like that.

Hen
[/b][/quote]

Nope, it was the XT130 strut.

Nissan 4spot / XT130 strut brake upgrade. (http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25308)

But i just found this one too, which looks a whole lot easier using the RA60 strut:

Nissan 4spot / RA60 strut upgrade (http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=239))

[Hen is a total nutcase]

OK, I must have it the wrong way round.

[Javal]

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OK, I must have it the wrong way round.[/b]

Well you were right, the upgrade can be done on the MX73 / RA60 / XT130 / RT132 struts.

I think it's easier to do on the RA60 strut for one reason or another, but it's done on the XT130 / RT132 struts because the RA60's cause positive camber in the early celicas.

I dunno, i haven't read into it too much.

However GT-R brakes on a sprinter is pretty badass.

[Mr Fujiwara]

just wondering if anyone can help me, ive been looking around and i cant seem to find the track increase of RA60 LCAs(over ae86 ones) or more importatnly the negative camber which comes from the instal of them, ive got them on my car but i didnt do it so i dont know how much wider my track is.

cheers.

[Hen is a total nutcase]

RA60 arms are identical length to AE86 by my measurements.

Hen

[jono86]

yep, same. different steering arms tho.

[gaz20v]

thanks for info, today ive purchased some ra60 struts, brakes, steering arms. ill be sourcing some xt130 lower arms, having the brakes serviced/reconditioned and putting it all in to see if it fits fine. by the sounds it will fit ok. I will then be adding some upgraded shocks and springs to the setup. i will report back on how good/bad it fits up.

[Hen is a total nutcase]

My guess will be it will all fit, but give around 2deg positive camber and slower steering.

Camber can be overcome with Sigma LCAs and RA40 tie rods. But I've never seen a fix for the longer steering arms.

Hen

[gaz20v]

hmmm


i guess option 2 is ra40 strut, ive heard the ra60 brakes will fit on?? or perhaps a st141 or xt30??


any fixs here??

[Hen is a total nutcase]

RA40 strut has the right geometry and the fatter stub axle, but RA60 brakes DO NOT bolt on. The hub and disc fit, but making an adaptor for the calipers would be a bit of a pain.

Hen

[gaz20v]

gaddamn, ill have to sort somthing out ey, just picked up the calipers from the shop this mornin, left them there to be serviced the other day... another $120 later got reco calipers that i mite not even use now!!! i have a feeling the ra60 strut will be no good now unless i go for some weld on coilovers. As i now have the struts in the garage i measured the length from the base to the spring land, its about 20mm longer than the stock ae71 strut, so i take it that handling with a lowered spring in there, a super short one to get a lower ride height, would be bloody ordinary would it not?

[Gunner]

cut the strut to the same height as the ke strut use ke inserts weld on coilover kit, i think thats how it goes. correct me if I'm wrong people

[gaz20v]

yeah, thats what I'm going to have to consider, i was trying to stay away from weld on coilovers tho

[Hen is a total nutcase]

RA60 strut = gay.

Gives positive camber (Can be overcome, but why not use RA40? They have the right geometry and the fat stub axle)
Has long steering arms (Cannot be overcome without plenty of die grinder (dodgy) love or cut and shut arms)

[gaz20v]

oh well, guess ra 40 mite have to be the go, will be looking at a complete ra40 on the weekend to wreck sooo, yeah if the price is rite ill have me a t series diff and W5 box too.
shame i didnt look into it all further before buying everything hey