Could this be...

[DRFTPG]

{ictures Speak a thousand words so ill let them do the talking

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[orange32]

yes it is..

When i saw tis today, i pretty much ran to it, my jaw dropped and pants grew tight. A similair thing happened when i saw the purple JDM garage R34, but this, this is something else...

[ke70dave]

i love it....

except for those tail lights..not a fan..the rest is awesome though

[ae86hachiroku]

yea if he had whitelines or something, would finish it off better

[DRFTPG]

i agree but it still looks soooo good!! the purple with the white interior and engine bay just look so..perfect!! and those longchamps!! my god the offset is insane!!

[maxhag]

fecking oath!

[JinxD]

why didnt i paint my engine bay white god that looks hot!

[JDM_KING]

dead sexy

[mr2drift]

pffft whitelines, the car is so extensively modified its MEANT to have everything under the sun non original... get a look at the chassis and floorpan, youll be amazed..... the ONLY lights that suit the theme of that car are those......... in the carpark not 10 meters from it this morning a was a street car with the same lights, looked like vomit, but on THAT car, those lights work , simple..

[deleta]

defiantly the hottest hachi ever loooked sooo hot today congrats on 3rd too....

[Klutch]

I agree, those lights suit it alot.
Looks amazing :o

[LIL BLU MAN]

this car is hot ! dont know about the hottest cause theres alot of 86's out there and i havnt seen all of them let alone this one, but i agree with the others i think a different light choice would have been better, i prefer my redlines anyway

[breno]

its true pictures speak a 1000 words but not with this car.

There is so much more with this car that is not in the photo, and all that stuff is badass.
every hose in this car is braided, the chassis rails are IN the cabin because of the height its at.

It is seriously a crazy car.

[Dongaz]

all i can say it DAAAYYYYMMMM NOICE!

[TrackRona]

doesn't the color bother anyone...? other than that, the car is sex on wheels.

[v7da1]

thatz f'ing hot :o who the hell are those dudes ? thats crazyyyyyyyyyyyy :2thumbs:

[r3zzz4]

Wow... there is not one part of that car that does not look extremely hot and mean.

Attention to detail much? those front flares are amazing.

[86xxx]

Definately hot! I likey!!!!

On the discussed point of the lights, these definately suit it, redlines or any other OEM lights would look out of place on a car this worked.

Sexiest in Aus AT THE MOMENT hehe :P

[chapl]

more info on who built it etc

[embrace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chapl @ Jan 21 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472189)</div>
more info on who built it etc[/b]
+1 for build details

[raylee]

thats hot~!! lOl

[Gilly]

its been built over the last 3 years by a brissy guy Brett

used to be the white SR thing that was ripping some of the best skids in '05 then disappeared off the scene (i have footage somewhere of this car dominating bolger's 1000hp ute at a prac day :P

talking to a mate of Brett's last wwek and he told me it was finished, i saw pics ages ago when it was stripped and thought he just gave up in the meantime. and the chassis mods are insane, minitruck style c notched rails, the guard arches have been "raised" to fit the rims at that height, equal length trailing arms etc, the list goes on. i'm sure details will flow now its finished.

to be honest it sounded like it couldn't be driven, obviously not the case!!

even more impressive is not driving anything for 3 years and placing 3rd :blink:

[Jacek]

its a monster!!!

i agreed with the lights, they suit the crazy fully-modded style to a T

[DRFTPG]

does anyone know where i can get some more info on it?

[jasstv]

what skirts & rear bar ??? they look sick....

[biggo]

It IS!!!!!!!!!!!!

ive heard so many stories about this build, and it looks like theyre all true! FKN HOT!

[johl]

yeh this thing was crazy to c in the flesh. u dont understand how wide the gaurds are untill u c them. and then the wheels are 2cm wider than them... when i saw how low it was i was like omg its gunna be ripped apart by the end of the day. i mean one dirt drop at QR and it would have ripped off his side skirts. and he ran his fuel lines through the cabin???? +1 for more info on the build

[Gilly]

he is actually on here

like i said i'm sure details will float through with more pics over time

D might even see this and gift us all with some more info :P

[obey wan boenny]

words can't explain how orgasmic this car is.

my jaw literally dropped when I first laid eyes on this beast sliding around the track.

[ae86hachiroku]

Front and rear bar look like Vertex to me... sideskirts aren't though...

*edit* actually, it's a Origin front I believe... rears vertex and origin are pretty much the same

[sotiros86]

This thing is sex. Does anyone know if there is build journal or anything on this car, cause i would like to see exactly what he has done to this beast.

[lewa]

that is the ULTIMATE

i still rate beau's (yates) car though!

edit: i forgot SKINS car :P

[Bustin_86]

Yep nniiiccee much love

Hand flared guards are the best, incredible cleanliness

[v-tec]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
looked like vomit[/b]


How cut would you be if Josh Young said your hachi looks like vomit

[orange32]

thanks for posting the old pics of this machine Gilly.

Mark was trying to explain what it used to look like yesterday to jog my memory and all i could manage was a vacant stare.

I remember the radiator support and the cooler piping.

[Anthony]

More info on the build.. hmm. Brett is on here but generally just to flog shit off :P

It's hard to explain the build but it's one of those where the more he looked at modifying, the deeper he decided to go. The car was built around the wheels, obviously. the wheels are custom widened longchamps. Its running equal length rears, rose jointed everything, S13 front uprights with custom control arms, S14 SR on PFC, 2510. Engine is pretty much as it was in early shots but with recent cams, gears, stoppers and a retune.

Brett is good mates with Tony at Perfection body works (Wynnum), and he was called in to make the guards work - and of course the paint (in the perfection/jdm garage team colour).

Bretts ethos is - its OK - could be lower. It runs a fabricated tunnel, not to fit the box but to fit the diff. This gives you an idea of how low it is. You'd really need to see the car to appreciate the finer points but thats it in a nutshell. Skirts are BN (copied off goldies).

All I can say is Brett is one of those rare people with the skills and the perseverance (and the contacts) to pull off a build like this. Huge congrats and also on 3rd place debut. :)

[PuGZoR]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orange32 @ Jan 20 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472083)</div>
When i saw tis today, i pretty much ran to it, my jaw dropped and pants grew tight. A similair thing happened when i saw the purple JDM garage R34, but this, this is something else...[/b]
You mean the Perfection Bodyworks R34? :P Wouldn't be suprised if Tony painted this '86 too, looks very similar to his '34.

EDIT: Dammit, Anthony beat me.

[RobertoX]

not my taste at all

but well done and finished none the less

congrats on the 3rd!

[slide86]

brett's 86 has always been one of the best in australia

and it just got awhole lot sexier.

[riojin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (truenosedan @ Jan 21 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472362)</div>
not my taste at all[/b]
i would have to agree

[Hachi Roku]

damn thats hot..any info on the specs of the car?

[blair]

just WAIT! lol its first apperance was yesturday...

[slide86]

it was posted in members rides ages ago
after the 1st build.

[johnny_08]

whats that silver thing in the engine bay? above the brake booster

[ghetto ke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SON57A @ Jan 20 2008, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472077)</div>
http://image-cache.boostcruising.com/database/genthumbs/900/1200/journal/files/post-9172-12008223361726024478.jpg[/b]

KING of mean stance!!!

[jasstv]

KING of mean stance!!!
[/quote]

i reckon look at the front wheelss ..... madshit!

[RobertoX]

i know they are custom

but rim sizes offset

tyres etc

cheers

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hachi Roku @ Jan 21 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472405)</div>
damn thats hot..any info on the specs of the car?[/b]

sorry my info on page 2 wasnt enough. What else you need to know?

Wheels are 15 x 10 all round -33 and -36. Running the only 86 tyre. 195/50/15 :)

[RobertoX]

hows the lock on the front?

195/50/15 on a 10 is sweet

not many people on here like it tho!

[jono86]

this thing was at perfection body works a while ago, i work just around the corner so i saw it progress ...... i took photo's about october and was gunna put em up here but i met brett and he was such a nice guy i couldnt spoil the surprise lol. the hotness definatly rivals that of any other hachi i have seen.

[sus10]

i wish my car looked like that.

[Dom86]

THIS IS REALLY HOT!

the stance, the wheels. needed the tinted lights in my opinion, but perfect in any case.

[kaibeecee]

i knew there would be a fuss about this car, but man.

lock is a bit more than that of a standard s13 setup, due to the lengthend control arms and machined rack ends. about 40-something degrees it seems

the purple is the same as tonys car, and soon to be erins as well

its just good to see the car somewhere outside his garage again, bretts a hardworking guy, he deserves it


will be blowing tyres infront of judging stands in a snap of a hat... again

[Dom86]

.... oh and the color is HOT! is that new commodore purple?

[Anthony]

Yes it is. And there's a little bit more to the extra lock recipe than that :)

What do you mean Dave? Most ppl seem to like it.

[RobertoX]

^ me dave?

[callum1]

i really like this car...dont worry purists...it still SOUNDS like a 4a.

[driftke70]

i knew brett was handy with a the ole metal stick but this shit is ridiculous, time for me to crank the plamsa cutter and quit fucking around.

[Anthony]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (truenosedan @ Jan 21 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472449)</div>
hows the lock on the front?

195/50/15 on a 10 is sweet

not many people on here like it tho![/b]

Yeah you Dave :)

[Felix]

this car is great

I would love to go for a passenger run in it, its transistions are soooooo smooth, bummer theirs only 1 seat

but brett has worked some magic on this

[hara_kiri]

very amazingly sexual, jus what i want mine to look like soon

[Felix]

^^^
good luck rob :P

get it on the trackkkkkkkkkk :P

[hara_kiri]

yea i no this car has inspired me to hurry the fuck up, might get a bit bigger loan when i get the tow car haha

purple is porn

the kits hot too, will be quite similar hachis, except mine might have equip 03's hopefully....ken haha

[boris]

looks nice, but to need for speed for me.

[JinxD]

did anyone get vids of this thing?

[johl]

it sounded like an n/a sr out on the track. it was weird. if i didnt c it earlier or couldnt c the front mount u'd never know. plumb back ftw

[DRFTPG]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anthony @ Jan 21 2008, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472445)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hachi Roku @ Jan 21 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472405)
damn thats hot..any info on the specs of the car?[/b]

sorry my info on page 2 wasnt enough. What else you need to know?

Wheels are 15 x 10 all round -33 and -36. Running the only 86 tyre. 195/50/15 :)
[/b][/quote]

oh just things like what suspension he is runnin, lca's, what he has done to get extra lock...all those kinds of things

[Anthony]

S13 front coilovers and home made rear coilovers. I don't really want to say much about the extra lock in case ppl get encouraged to try it on street cars (especially ppl that cant weld, hint hint). Its a popular mod in jp anyway and reduces ackermans angle at the same time. One of this cars signatures is zero to low ackermans. You'd have to see it move to see what effect this has. The other mod utilised is to take to your quaife quikrack with an angle grinder - good luck :)

LCA's I *think* are R32 with rose joint inners anyway so it doesnt really matter what they are - theyre long and adjustable. Some Jap bars (25.4mm fr and 18 mm rear) seem to be the same that came in goldie.

Rear suspension is coilovers, rose jointed equal length normalised roll centre 5 link which brett made himself.

[RobertoX]

funny about the aker - man

barry here wants to cast up some ae86 steering arms

[Javal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (truenosedan @ Jan 23 2008, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=473322)</div>
funny about the aker - man

barry here wants to cast up some ae86 steering arms[/b]

Get them drafted up and CNC milled. will be cheaper, and stronger depending on the material.

[Beau]

all i can say is this car is amazing!!

and Club Charles is working on what you Dave and Javal are speaking of!

[RobertoX]

see sig!

[Beau]

Im impressed! But it needs to be bigger and classy'er!

[v-tec]

More shots from the Casey Mang

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163167.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163168.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163169.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163170.jpg

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163171.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4339/451of1tk5.jpg


100% Quality shots, i only wish i could have got some of mine in the chase car, damn this thing looks tough whatever its doing

[orange32]

third picture down v-tec, thats us on the left under the shade gazebo thing.

Hooray

[floody31]

Awesome! Just awesome. Trick fabrication and lots of out of the box thinking, neat.

It almost looks like an RC car , so the Tamiya decal made me LOL!

[madrift]

Amazing car, and those shots a few posts above : Wow! nice pics, skills are awesome

[mc68]

as much as it is reaaly against what i usually like...that thing is fucken horn :)

shame about the donk though, kinda ruins it for me...no love for an SR

[timottaway]

Hehe Bretts a funny bloke, he still does hes old trademark 'fly the 'ol bird while driving' stunt

I was commentating from the tower at QR that day, Was funny cause i was hearing all the radio speak from officials....

"Can someone tel that idiot in the purple corolla to keep his arms in the car while driving around the track....bloody idiot!"

Bretts car is a hand made car in the truest sense, He built the motor, cage, modded wheels, etc

congrats on a killer result first time back DUUUUDDDEEEE

[lewa]

does anyone have any interior shots? I'm keen to see all the custom work inside!

I'm loving my new background though!

[FLT LNR]

flares, wheels, stance, interior, fabrication, engine bay.... FUCK YEAH.....

only dislikes are the tail lights, and i wouldn't have skirts, maybe just j-blood front and rear in black. but it IS a track car, so he can have what he likes. bloody nice overall.

[djscheppy]

i like how people dislike this car cause of little things. it isnt your car and yours wont be anything like it this thing is amazing

i heard alot about this car last yeah from "slydar" very good to see the finished product of all bretts hard work

[73ta22]

best hachi in australia by far... i bet everyone wishes there ae86 looks like this.... this is how its done

PURE JDM STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! top work mate. looks feels like I'm in japan again after seeing these pics! :2thumbs:

[mr2drift]

lol what a useless post, theres nothing in japan that looks like this thing, its got a mean stance and look, all of its own....

[73ta22]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474217)</div>
lol what a useless post, theres nothing in japan that looks like this thing, its got a mean stance and look, all of its own....[/b]
I seen a shitload at Nikko/Ebisu a couple weeks ago.. :greenbounce:

[Cj_sullivan]

yea seen alot of tuff cars like that at fuji speedway for d1GP
also heaps of tuff hachis at nikko MSC and ebisu D1 street legal

pure JDM

[Matt-AE86]

An awsome example of a well built sprinter. One of those photos about a page or so back, the angle of the photo, it reminded me a little of McNamara's SR86...

Pure porn..

Would like to ask alot of questions and see alot of things in regards to this, as I'm building my own SR86 currently. But I'm sure there is a few secrets in this build.

Nice job brett.

[Oly AE86]

OMG!. Heard bits and pieces about this as it was being made, but the result is just inspiring. Cannot wait to see in the flesh and do some drooling.

Congrats to Brett!!!

[mr2drift]

lol i challenge you to show me a pic of ANY jdm car fabricated to this point, or that has the chassis tubbed and the wheel arches RAISED so the top of the tyres sits above the body crease, yes it LOOKS PORN, but its its own angry look not copied from JDM. JDM is bolt on everything and whack it togeather, this is pure overkill in every department..

[puzzigully]

incredible

any pics of said fabrication work (especially the chassis rails)

[Delazy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474409)</div>
lol i challenge you to show me a pic of ANY jdm car fabricated to this point, or that has the chassis tubbed and the wheel arches RAISED so the top of the tyres sits above the body crease, yes it LOOKS PORN, but its its own angry look not copied from JDM. JDM is bolt on everything and whack it togeather, this is pure overkill in every department..[/b]

i agree with u champ....the basics ie particular areas have a jap feel to them....but the overall package is far far from japanese its not funny....

but my god....this thing is stupidly nuts....

[obey wan boenny]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474409)</div>
lol i challenge you to show me a pic of ANY jdm car fabricated to this point, or that has the chassis tubbed and the wheel arches RAISED so the top of the tyres sits above the body crease, yes it LOOKS PORN, but its its own angry look not copied from JDM. JDM is bolt on everything and whack it togeather, this is pure overkill in every department..[/b]

+1

The JDM 86's have got big dished wheels too and share some of thge exterior traits but this car is nothing like a JDM AE86. It's just like Josh said, overkill in every area which makes it look very different and fucken insane in it's own right.

[kaibeecee]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (racsov500 @ Jan 24 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474411)</div>
incredible

any pics of said fabrication work (especially the chassis rails)[/b]

the rails have been flattened a small amount, and re-boxed when the C pillar was notched for the diff. not much too see really in the way of things

[Delazy]

so who in QLD that knows brett is volunteering to go around and take pics of all the other details of the car.....this car has my imagination running wild at the possibilities

[ghetto ke]

I have to agree with Josh - this car's style king hits JDM into oblivion!!!!!

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163167.jpg

With that twisted perspective looks like a cartoon characature, Also love the Tamiya sticker - it almost looks like a full scale RC car ;)
motto rings true "Tamiya - First in quality around the world" :lol:

on the JDM tip, about 8-9 years back there was a team of touge AE86s from Shizuoka (home city of Tamiya model co) that ran the tamiya stars logo on front quarters, most of cars were either in primer or flat black and looked unreal like scale models :P

[Gilly]

Brett has THOUSANDS of photos, i'm sure one day they will emerge.

in 06 i saw some pics, he had about 4 CD's full of them :blink:

[sprintdaddy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teambadrun @ Jan 24 2008, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474212)</div>
best hachi in australia by far... i bet everyone wishes there ae86 looks like this.... this is how its done

PURE JDM STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! top work mate. looks feels like I'm in japan again after seeing these pics! :2thumbs:[/b]

Bzzz wrong answer. What`s wrong with Beau Yates car and Josh Youngs I don`t see anything jdm about this car especially the taillights,more like OZ style B)

[sotiros86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sprintdaddy @ Jan 24 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474466)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teambadrun @ Jan 24 2008, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474212)
best hachi in australia by far... i bet everyone wishes there ae86 looks like this.... this is how its done

PURE JDM STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! top work mate. looks feels like I'm in japan again after seeing these pics! :2thumbs:[/b]

Bzzz wrong answer. What`s wrong with Beau Yates car and Josh Youngs I don`t see anything jdm about this car especially the taillights,more like OZ style B)
[/b][/quote]

Beau Yates and Josh young also have sponsors to help pay for all of the modifications to there cars, where as this car is actually owned by brett. I don't reckon this thing is JDM it is truely in a league of its own.

By the way, i love those flare and wheel combo, meanest looking stance ever. true porn

[Anthony]

Josh and (until very recently) Beau do not really get any help with their cars in that way - so I think it's unfair to put down what they've done based on a false assumption. Tyres, entries and some travel is about as good as it gets. (maybe a turbo here and and an ECU there ;) ) But they've built their cars off their own bat too.

As for Brett's car being JDM, yeah not really. JDM cars are almost built with failure in mind and as such they're put together relatively quickly and with known recipes. Brett's build became so involved that it very nearly became a coffee table. Which is why (if you've been around the build at all) it's really weird to see it on track. Good kinda weird :).

If people are that interested I'll try and organise a few pics of the interior etc.

[Delazy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anthony @ Jan 24 2008, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474513)</div>
If people are that interested I'll try and organise a few pics of the interior etc.[/b]

no trying about it...you WILL get pics lol :2thumbs: :greenbounce: :lol:

[timottaway]

shit ant there might be riots man, better go to bretts get those pics!

[mr2drift]

LOL 'sponsors pay for the mods' BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA have you seen the pics of my shed where all the 'mangotree' love, or as ant calls it 'paw paw' work happens... ALL my fab and prep is done on a shoestring, by me, in house to keep costs down, and some of the things in my car, most people would shudder to think how backyard they are. beau yates is the same tests, tunes and modifys all his own parts, himself... EVEN this year, with the TRD sponsorship, ALL his fab work and mech work he is handling himself, parts sourced through his deal with toyota. beau happens to be a top notch fabricator by trade, where as I'm a backyard, self taught hack, and well, brett, as everyone can see, is a perfectionist....

if only you guys knew how much work he put into the smallest details, like the handbrake lever.

i was SHOCKED to see it on track, and brett himself said he'd rather of not had it here while in the scrutineering line in the morning... bet he had changed his mind by the afternoon though....

[floody31]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teambadrun @ Jan 24 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474212)</div>
PURE JDM STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! top work mate. looks feels like I'm in japan again after seeing these pics! :2thumbs:[/b]


Honestly....As much as people fap fap over the jap stuff, over their whole car scene its only rare that you see truly exceptional and innovative work (imo they're hamstrung by a tweaking stock bits attitude). You simply wouldn't see a car like that in Japan - you'll see wild bodies, wild wheels, trick suspension, neat engine conversions...rarely together as most Jap cars where one thing is done nice, the rest is half arsed.

Case in point...in the late 80's early 90's Gibson Motorsport were politely asked NOT to bring their cars to Japan (yes it was mooted at a few stages), because the aussie developed group A cars were MUCH faster than the Japanese built ones. They are capable of some awesome things over there....But Aussie ingenuity is difficult to beat, and the purple car has that in abundance.

[driftke70]

^ ding ding ding

[D-limo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474534)</div>
LOL 'sponsors pay for the mods' BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA have you seen the pics of my shed where all the 'mangotree' love, or as ant calls it 'paw paw' work happens... ALL my fab and prep is done on a shoestring, by me, in house to keep costs down, and some of the things in my car, most people would shudder to think how backyard they are. beau yates is the same tests, tunes and modifys all his own parts, himself... EVEN this year, with the TRD sponsorship, ALL his fab work and mech work he is handling himself, parts sourced through his deal with toyota. beau happens to be a top notch fabricator by trade, where as I'm a backyard, self taught hack, and well, brett, as everyone can see, is a perfectionist....

if only you guys knew how much work he put into the smallest details, like the handbrake lever.

i was SHOCKED to see it on track, and brett himself said he'd rather of not had it here while in the scrutineering line in the morning... bet he had changed his mind by the afternoon though....[/b]
Did Beau fabricate his old inlet manifold? Cause that thing is an absolute work of art

[70XIN]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (D-limo @ Jan 25 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474721)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474534)
LOL 'sponsors pay for the mods' BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA have you seen the pics of my shed where all the 'mangotree' love, or as ant calls it 'paw paw' work happens... ALL my fab and prep is done on a shoestring, by me, in house to keep costs down, and some of the things in my car, most people would shudder to think how backyard they are. beau yates is the same tests, tunes and modifys all his own parts, himself... EVEN this year, with the TRD sponsorship, ALL his fab work and mech work he is handling himself, parts sourced through his deal with toyota. beau happens to be a top notch fabricator by trade, where as I'm a backyard, self taught hack, and well, brett, as everyone can see, is a perfectionist....

if only you guys knew how much work he put into the smallest details, like the handbrake lever.

i was SHOCKED to see it on track, and brett himself said he'd rather of not had it here while in the scrutineering line in the morning... bet he had changed his mind by the afternoon though....[/b]
Did Beau fabricate his old inlet manifold? Cause that thing is an absolute work of art
[/b][/quote]

i'm very sure hypertune made that manifold :)

[D-limo]

Ah ok always wondered who... I guess Beau made the original one back when he was running the stock bottom end... That one was much more ummm... diy spec :lol:

[70XIN]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (D-limo @ Jan 26 2008, 06:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474862)</div>
Ah ok always wondered who... I guess Beau made the original one back when he was running the stock bottom end... That one was much more ummm... diy spec :lol:[/b]

the box with rivets? :P it did the job

but goddam i've been eyeing off the hypertune manifold, it is awesome

[Patto]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr2drift @ Jan 24 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474534)</div>
LOL 'sponsors pay for the mods' BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA have you seen the pics of my shed where all the 'mangotree' love, or as ant calls it 'paw paw' work happens... ALL my fab and prep is done on a shoestring, by me, in house to keep costs down, and some of the things in my car, most people would shudder to think how backyard they are. beau yates is the same tests, tunes and modifys all his own parts, himself... EVEN this year, with the TRD sponsorship, ALL his fab work and mech work he is handling himself, parts sourced through his deal with toyota. beau happens to be a top notch fabricator by trade, where as I'm a backyard, self taught hack, and well, brett, as everyone can see, is a perfectionist....
if only you guys knew how much work he put into the smallest details, like the handbrake lever.

i was SHOCKED to see it on track, and brett himself said he'd rather of not had it here while in the scrutineering line in the morning... bet he had changed his mind by the afternoon though....[/b]
You do alright for a bodgy backyarder.... Paint ,panel, fabrication,engine mods...............................

[NE1469R]

i don't mean to be a wet blanket...but some would say a SR in a toyota is blashemy...

i've seen a 2jz-gte in a hachi, and i think only chuck norris could of made it.

around the track, it was insane to say the least.

[Anthony]

I agree. which is why I pulled the SR ot of Goldie and replaced it with Beams 3S (in fact Brett pulled it out for me :) I tried to show him the way.. ;) ) but despite that small grievance there's way too much in this car to hold that against him. :D

I'd much rather have an SR than a 2J anyway - in an 86 that is.

[NE1469R]

yeh i would have to agree, sr over 2j much better, 2j's are fairly heavy, let alone the headache of installing one. how are you liking the 3S? you probably have seen the 3S turbo powered 86 in issue 62 of auto salon?

[Patto]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NE1469R @ Jan 26 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=474894)</div>
yeh i would have to agree, sr over 2j much better, 2j's are fairly heavy, let alone the headache of installing one. how are you liking the 3S? you probably have seen the 3S turbo powered 86 in issue 62 of auto salon?[/b]
2jz weigh aroung 217kg...1uz weigh 175 kg
don't know about an sr but with all the added turbo gear ,intercooler etc a lot of which is in front of the crossmember would weigh ??...140-150kg ???
whats a beams weigh Anthony?? just out of interest

[NE1469R]

how much does a 4a-ge wiegh in comparison to the SR and 2j?

[Konakid]

Respect for committing to such a detailed and thorough build, not what i'd call the hottest 86 personally. Still, an awesome, individual looking drift car which obviously performs.

To say the car is beyond japan styling and these standards of builds don't exist in Japan is a load of shit, I'm sorry. To rag on the people whose styling and mechanical mods we have copied for so long, because they work, is pretty harsh. The japs are smart, they use 'bolt on' mods to perfect and refine what comes from the factory instead of trying to turn the car into something its not with custom parts, new motors, redesigned suspension etc, often ruining the balance of the car.

[Son_Ya]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KonaKid @ Jan 28 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=475624)</div>
Respect for committing to such a detailed and thorough build, not what i'd call the hottest 86 personally. Still, an awesome, individual looking drift car which obviously performs.

To say the car is beyond japan styling and these standards of builds don't exist in Japan is a load of shit, I'm sorry. To rag on the people whose styling and mechanical mods we have copied for so long, because they work, is pretty harsh. The japs are smart, they use 'bolt on' mods to perfect and refine what comes from the factory instead of trying to turn the car into something its not with custom parts, new motors, redesigned suspension etc, often ruining the balance of the car.[/b]





..ure insane

[steroidchickens]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KonaKid @ Jan 28 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=475624)</div>
Respect for committing to such a detailed and thorough build, not what i'd call the hottest 86 personally. Still, an awesome, individual looking drift car which obviously performs.

To say the car is beyond japan styling and these standards of builds don't exist in Japan is a load of shit, I'm sorry. To rag on the people whose styling and mechanical mods we have copied for so long, because they work, is pretty harsh. The japs are smart, they use 'bolt on' mods to perfect and refine what comes from the factory instead of trying to turn the car into something its not with custom parts, new motors, redesigned suspension etc, often ruining the balance of the car.[/b]


and i suppose you have driven this car along with any other car with an engine conversion to know that such modification does ruin the balance of the car.

pull your head in.

i did not know a ke70 came standard with a 4age?

[sprintdaddy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger roger @ Jan 28 2008, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476071)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KonaKid @ Jan 28 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=475624)
Respect for committing to such a detailed and thorough build, not what i'd call the hottest 86 personally. Still, an awesome, individual looking drift car which obviously performs.

To say the car is beyond japan styling and these standards of builds don't exist in Japan is a load of shit, I'm sorry. To rag on the people whose styling and mechanical mods we have copied for so long, because they work, is pretty harsh. The japs are smart, they use 'bolt on' mods to perfect and refine what comes from the factory instead of trying to turn the car into something its not with custom parts, new motors, redesigned suspension etc, often ruining the balance of the car.[/b]





..ure insane
[/b][/quote]

:paperbag:

[Konakid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (steroidchickens @ Jan 28 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476083)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KonaKid @ Jan 28 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=475624)
Respect for committing to such a detailed and thorough build, not what i'd call the hottest 86 personally. Still, an awesome, individual looking drift car which obviously performs.

To say the car is beyond japan styling and these standards of builds don't exist in Japan is a load of shit, I'm sorry. To rag on the people whose styling and mechanical mods we have copied for so long, because they work, is pretty harsh. The japs are smart, they use 'bolt on' mods to perfect and refine what comes from the factory instead of trying to turn the car into something its not with custom parts, new motors, redesigned suspension etc, often ruining the balance of the car.[/b]


and i suppose you have driven this car along with any other car with an engine conversion to know that such modification does ruin the balance of the car.

pull your head in.

i did not know a ke70 came standard with a 4age?
[/b][/quote]

You've missed my point. Completely. Putting a 4age into an ae71 for example, works. It has the same capacity, it weighs almost the same, uses the standard engine mounts, but it has the advantages of being twin cam, efi and makes a decent amount of power for the chassis and small tweaks in other areas. All in all, it makes sense. This is my interpretation of a good engine conversion.

A powerful motor such as the SR can be great if other areas are also extensively modified, such as this example which obviously has all areas covered in terms of performance, giving it good overall balance. From examples i have seen in Australia, often too much emphasis is placed on power not enough on brakes, suspension etc. This is why the Japs are still beyond most modifiers in Australia as they are all about balance which is found by tweaking what you already have to give a good all round package.

Thats my idea of the perfect 86 anyway, I was merely voicing my opinion, i only put it out there for others to dwell on but hey, if I'm not allowed to disagree with the majority then ill just shutup in future.

I'm not saying the car is shit at all, i never knocked the workmanship or questioned its performance, its a very extensive build and obviously works and looks fat as. I was merely offering my opinion.

[fergo308]

I'm inclined to agree with the above. I've never understood why people feel the need to make AE86's into something they're not.
a mate told me a long time ago: if you want a fast car,buy one. now,the workmanship on this car is fantastic,that is plainly obvious,and I'm sure it drifts quite well,but it's not an 86 any more. it's an S13 with a live axle. ban me,flame me,whatever,but 86's should be NA 4 bangers. if that doesn't get the job done for you,buy something that will.


Justin...

[steroidchickens]

so what you are both saying, when you are sick off getting ass raped at the track by skylines and silvias. just become one of them!
very nice point made... haha.

[djscheppy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Feb 1 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476321)</div>
I'm inclined to agree with the above. I've never understood why people feel the need to make AE86's into something they're not.
a mate told me a long time ago: if you want a fast car,buy one. now,the workmanship on this car is fantastic,that is plainly obvious,and I'm sure it drifts quite well,but it's not an 86 any more. it's an S13 with a live axle. ban me,flame me,whatever,but 86's should be NA 4 bangers. if that doesn't get the job done for you,buy something that will.


Justin...[/b]


well its already been proven by drifters even n/a 4age's can beat skylines. more the skill of the driver than the car itself.

my house mate has a R32 and a R34 and i own a AE86. i can still out drift him even when my car was a 4ac.

if you don't think interbreading of cars is ok then the modifing car scene will die.

[86xxx]

A few points (opinions) I'm going to express here....

1) Brett, the work on your car is amazing! It is finished to a show car level, with attention to detail paid to things as only a perfectionist would. (I know because i am one also!) Whilst not everything about your car is to my taste (I'm not a fan of the 'period correct styling' of 86's) ie. the huge offset, dished wheels, big flares etc. i can respect that you have build your car to how you like it and i am really impressed with the extent of the customizing you have gone to. Dropping the body over the chassis rails, lifting the floor to allow its low stance, equal length trailing arms, the guard mods to allow its ground scubbing stance, the level of work in your car is stunning, well done.

2) To the people on here criticising Brett's choice of power plant, get over yourselves. The effect on weight distribution etc. that putting an SR, CA, or 3S motor in an 86 is not even worth worrying about. They can all be mounted far enough back and low enough to maintain the balance of the 86 chassis, and as Brett has proved, these transplants are enhancing the capabilities of the 86. Yes, in the 80's the NA 4 banger was the best engine at the time, but at the rapid growth of the sport of drifting, the increase in speed and power being put out by the top level cars, a NA 86 just can't take it to the top level cars anymore. There's so many people on here with their heads that far up their arse, refusing to except development and progress, fact of the matter is that the 86 is a great little car, that can be made even greater with smart modifications and well thought out engineering. Just because it was made in the 80's doesnt mean you must keep all modifications in line with the technologies available in the 80's! F*^K!!!!

3) Who really gives a stuff about JDM?!?! SO WHAT!!! The 86 originated from Japan. Whoop Dee Doo!!! Did Subaru develop their AWD systems based on and not exceeding the technologies Audi had when they invented the AWD system?! Brett's car is testiment to the fact that if you dare to be different the results are very rewarding. This car shits all over any JDM piece of shit, just proving that Australian engineering is just as advanced and original as anyone else in the world, look at the cars being turned out of people's own garages from here within Aus. This site has a few members with seriously engineered and well built original cars, sadly it has more members with no idea and horrid taste. Head over to Toymods and have a look at the open minded people on there, this is how members of this site should be. Instead of being so up tight about JDM and period correctness when modifying cars, thats whats so shit about japan, just about every 86 is stripped out, fitted with coilovers and big offset ugly wheels, and NA 4age. Every one is the same, boring and slow.

Be the black sheep, build YOUR car how YOU want.

(end rant)

[Konakid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476321)</div>
I'm inclined to agree with the above. I've never understood why people feel the need to make AE86's into something they're not.
a mate told me a long time ago: if you want a fast car,buy one. now,the workmanship on this car is fantastic,that is plainly obvious,and I'm sure it drifts quite well,but it's not an 86 any more. it's an S13 with a live axle. ban me,flame me,whatever,but 86's should be NA 4 bangers. if that doesn't get the job done for you,buy something that will.


Justin...[/b]

My point.

[johl]

is it just me or does a fight brew on every thread about an amazing car?

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johl @ Jan 29 2008, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476442)</div>
is it just me or does a fight brew on every thread about an amazing car?[/b]

Well of course a fight is going to occur, people have different tastes.

The problem with ae86dc is that the maturity to accept that other people have different opinions and tastes does not exist with 95% of the members, this being because they're either 15 year old kids with no idea or stay at home dole bludging nobodies who are stuck in the 80's....

Like i said before, whilst every aspect of this car may not float my boat, i am still amazed and impressed with the level and quality of work. I'd hope that some other members who did not exactly love the way this car was built could look past their own opinions and congratulate Brett on his work.

[driftke70]

alot of work has gone into this thing, I'm not one for worrying about builds of others too much, i respect brett for having the ability to build the the car. Hr has done an awesome job, my fav car, the audi r8, i could walk around it and point out 100's of things i don't like etc but at the end of the day i still love it. I'm like to see same family conversions done neatly, but people like myself (ls2 into a jimny recently, thinking of putting a 13bt into my keto) and brett arn't out there to go mingle with the chumps at the toyota section of a historic rally.

When you push the loud pedal, sometimes you need more than noise.

[embrace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (medwin46 @ Jan 29 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476368)</div>

Be the black sheep, build YOUR car how YOU want. [/b]

couldn't have put it better

[Dom86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KonaKid @ Jan 29 2008, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476436)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476321)
I'm inclined to agree with the above. I've never understood why people feel the need to make AE86's into something they're not.
a mate told me a long time ago: if you want a fast car,buy one. now,the workmanship on this car is fantastic,that is plainly obvious,and I'm sure it drifts quite well,but it's not an 86 any more. it's an S13 with a live axle. ban me,flame me,whatever,but 86's should be NA 4 bangers. if that doesn't get the job done for you,buy something that will.


Justin...[/b]

My point.
[/b][/quote]

what if you like the look of the sprinter, but want/need the power of a s13. the sprinters main floor is the lack of power. just cos you saw a sprinter beat a GTR in initialD does mean it would happen for real.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (juguar_19 @ Jan 29 2008, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476475)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (medwin46 @ Jan 29 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476368)

Be the black sheep, build YOUR car how YOU want. [/b]

couldn't have put it better
[/b][/quote]
plus 1 for the whole rant.

[verm69]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (medwin46 @ Jan 29 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476368)</div>
Be the black sheep, build YOUR car how YOU want.[/b]


+1



i've been trying to tell people on this forum this for years...

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VeRm69 @ Jan 29 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476519)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (medwin46 @ Jan 29 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476368)
Be the black sheep, build YOUR car how YOU want.[/b]


+1



i've been trying to tell people on this forum this for years...
[/b][/quote]

Good luck mate, i've already given up on that idea.

I think its funny to observe how the haters suddenly stop posting once things do happen. Funny how certain people can only post negative comments, never posting any offer of congrats etc. I put this down to mainly jealousy..... :rolleyes:

Head on over to toymods (if you arent already), the members over there are all open minded, very helpful (and DO actually know what they're talking about) and i am yet to see 1 bull shit thread on anything, no shit fights EVER. :2thumbs:

[RobertoX]

a little bit off topic but lol at toymods!

[ae86hachiroku]

+1 at lol'ing to toymods

[Konakid]

Turning a car into something its not by crossbreeding isn't my preferred style of modifying. That is my opinion, I'm not giving the car shit or ragging on the owner, just an opinion. I figure, if you want a car which makes 200 at the treads with an sr20, then buy a Silvia, who cares if everyone has one, they work. This isn't a shitfight at all, just people with a differing opinions of playing the modifying game voicing their thoughts.

Congrats on the 3rd, hope this car takes out many more podiums, with the amount of workmanship gone into it, it deserves it. Would love to see some detailed shots of the undercarriage!

[quoccy]

This is my opinion

All the members on here who think the only motor for a sprinter is a NA 4age are all cock heads

stop dreaming of becoming the next Takumi, Ueo, Keiichi Tsuchiya

[works510]

fair call quoccy.
Its his car, let him do whatever he wants with it
(I like it, and I'm anti SR20) :P

[fergo308]

Who cares about guys in japan? we're not them. who cares about initial d? it's a cartoon. that's not the point at all.
the point is: it's an old car. it was designed to work within certain power levels,and for certain usages. it's not a silvia.
trying to make it one is a waste of time.
yeah sure,you'll get street cred trying to take it to the newer cars with the old chassis,but the truth is,you're using them to try and keep up with them. you use S13 suspension,brakes,and nissan turbo engines. the car is then half silvia. it's not a modified 86,it's a hybrid thing.
with all the hate towards nissans on here,it's kind of funny how the only way you can keep up with them is to use their parts. how do you rationalise that? on one hand you say not to join them,but on the other,you fit whatever you can out of their cars to make yours work better. why not just buy the S13 or 14 or whatever and just go get the job done?

86's are great little fun cars. I've owned 4 over the years,and am currently building one. it's gutted. it's caged. it's half fibreglass. it's got a kouki trueno front. and it'll be NA. and it won't beat silvias around a track. but you know what? who cares? I love the car,and I drive it,and spend the thousands of dollars I already have and will continue to on it because it's the way it is. a fun,good handling,honest little car. I've had silvias before as well. I like them too.
last year,I had both at once. I drove the s14 whilst working on the 86. they're totally different cars,and go about their business in completely different ways.

now,I'll say this again. SONS7A:you've done a great job on this car,and I admire your quality of work. I'm sure it goes well,and the pics pretty much prove that. I personally don't agree with the choice of some of the gear in it,but hey,it's not mine and I'm not driving it,so who cares. it's still a nice car,and nothing that can be said can take that away.


Justin...

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (truenosedan @ Jan 29 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476539)</div>
a little bit off topic but lol at toymods![/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae86hachiroku @ Jan 29 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476542)</div>
+1 at lol'ing to toymods[/b]

I'll continue off topic....

You 2 may laugh, but it is you who is being laughed at. This site is known, and i mean WELL known, for being full of half-with know nothing nobodys, teenagers on school holidays and full of useless posts.

Its nearly to the take the piss level as NS, and thats saying something. I feel sorry for Nick, because it is in no way a reflection to the work he puts in, its just sad that theres sooooo many members who spoil it for the rest of us. Useless posts, shit fights in EVERY thread, far from accurate information, the number of members who ONLY post if they have something negative to say or are trying to make a sale to continue profiteering from the hype around 86's at the moment, you people spoil the club.

In saying that however, there are some knowledgeable members on here who do contribute positive and informative postings/information to the site. Its just sad that you've got to sort through sooooo much shit to find any helpful infomation, and its just as sad that there's so many haters ready to pounce when someone does something a little off JDM styling or uses brands other than crapco, and not so many people willing to commend work someone has put into a car.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (quoccy @ Jan 29 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476552)</div>
This is my opinion

All the members on here who think the only motor for a sprinter is a NA 4age are all cock heads

stop dreaming of becoming the next Takumi, Ueo, Keiichi Tsuchiya[/b]

+1 :2thumbs: Anyone who beleives that a NA 4age is still a competetive engine in an 86 (good motor in a clubman or something ultralight) are just down right dreamers, and back up my statement here ^^^ that theres ALOT of BULLSHIT in this site. Fact is that the 4age NA is DEAD as far as competetive cars in Australia are concerned. Maybe if there was a strictly 1600cc or under class yeah they'd be a good motor, but as far as competitions such as the the the Drift Australia rounds, you wont see a NA 4age powered car in the top 10, if not 20. This is of course unless you can find your way into the next takumi's (aka ae86hachiroku) dreams, because we all know that the $10K motor, fibreglass panels and total JDM style is going to HAUL :rolleyes:


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476606)</div>
Who cares about guys in japan? we're not them. who cares about initial d? it's a cartoon. that's not the point at all.
the point is: it's an old car. it was designed to work within certain power levels,and for certain usages. it's not a silvia.
trying to make it one is a waste of time.
yeah sure,you'll get street cred trying to take it to the newer cars with the old chassis,but the truth is,you're using them to try and keep up with them. you use S13 suspension,brakes,and nissan turbo engines. the car is then half silvia. it's not a modified 86,it's a hybrid thing.
with all the hate towards nissans on here,it's kind of funny how the only way you can keep up with them is to use their parts. how do you rationalise that? on one hand you say not to join them,but on the other,you fit whatever you can out of their cars to make yours work better. why not just buy the S13 or 14 or whatever and just go get the job done?

Justin...[/b]

Exactly, who cares about anything in Jap land! We're not them, we don't have to copy them or style our cars according to their taste. If at the end of the day thats not enough, just remember, WE WON THE WAR :lol:

Yes Justin, it is an old car. It was designed as a cheap, affordable to run 80's car. It was pure LUCK that it just so happened to be the perfect balance and geometry that makes it such a good drift car. don't you think that if a company wanted to make an even better suited car to drift in it'd shit all over the 86? Of course it would, today's technology is far too advanced to be beat by an 80's corolla with a heap of bolt in mods. Thats what is so impressive with this car, Brett has further enhanced the 86, he's taken a platform that was already ok, done extensive work on it to make the most out of it. Obviously a 4age was never going to be able to compete at the level this can, hence why the SR was chosen. I too am against cross breeding of cars, hate the idea of S13 suspension in an 86, think Nissan motors are a waste of time, but hey, this is not my car, and the work that has gone into it is amazing, and i respect that.

What would you say if Brett had've used a Toyota motor, Toyota suspension, basically nothing Nissan?! Its still an old platform with new technology thrown into it, would you still be full of jealousy?! Seriously, get over the 'its gotta be toyota and its gott have a fully sik 4age' theory, these practices were left in Jap land and the 80's 20 years ago, obviously where you were left too... <_<

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476606)</div>
SONS7A:you've done a great job on this car,and I admire your quality of work[/b]

And for the record, whilst i know SON57A would love this car to be his own, it belongs to a fellow by the name of Brett :greenbounce:

[Gilly]

this thread just became a lolathon............

[driftke70]

4age's have their place, but there is better.

ae86hachiroku's car will haul ass and already does, besides its never what you drive its how you drive it, and he appears to have a good hand and we are yet to get even a whiff of your driving, plus you drive a commo, so you opinions will always be tainted.

as i said before, i love bretts car, but respect him for his skills and his driving, not his car.

[PuGZoR]

IMHO... this is a brilliant car. The guy has obviously been in the scene a fair few years, and has just built up a list of traits he likes in various cars, combined that with his passion for the AE86, and just went nuts. Didn't care about what everyone else thinks, or what the status quo is these days, but just did what he wanted to do. Honestly, it seems to look and perform exactly how he planned it to, which is why he deserves commendation on his efforts.

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (driftke70 @ Jan 30 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477174)</div>
4age's have their place, but there is better.

ae86hachiroku's car will haul ass and already does, besides its never what you drive its how you drive it, and he appears to have a good hand and we are yet to get even a whiff of your driving, plus you drive a commo, so you opinions will always be tainted.

as i said before, i love bretts car, but respect him for his skills and his driving, not his car.[/b]

As i said, yes they do have their place, like a 1600cc and under class, but as far as an open competition, there's no way they'll do any good at all.

So you put Ken in his 86 up against the same ken in Brett's car, who's going to come off second best?! No you havent seen me drive, have you driven in a commodore ute with koni suspension, correctly set up springs and sway bars?! I'd suggest you pull your head in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bustin_86 @ Dec 28 2007, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=459671)</div>
Commodore handles insane

Seriously surprised me to be honest

Never seen someone so relaxed driving so fast[/b]

May i ask, what do you drive other than your kesev?!

I too respect Brett's driving (from what i've seen in his footage he car steer a car as well as he can build one) but from a point of veiw of someone who has also done alot of custom fab work, i respect his workmanship more.

[DRFTPG]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fergo308 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=476606)</div>
now,I'll say this again. SONS7A:you've done a great job on this car,and I admire your quality of work. I'm sure it goes well,and the pics pretty much prove that. I personally don't agree with the choice of some of the gear in it,but hey,it's not mine and I'm not driving it,so who cares. it's still a nice car,and nothing that can be said can take that away.


Justin...[/b]


i own this car now? OMG YAYYYYY justin you just made my day :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[driftke70]

the number plate might be a hint, its turbo too.

the other ls2 twin lockers, twin winches, 24 inch fox triple bypass shocks, external res. Worth more a corner than the entire setup on your ss.

an 07 hilux daily,

i work at a suspension shop, have fitted koni stuff to all the local stuff, xr6 was definately the best after, ss was same old just tighter, do your front castor bushes they reap a fair bit in those boxes.

Not trying to be rude, but your extremely arrogant for someone who has yet to prove them self.

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (driftke70 @ Jan 30 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477187)</div>
the number plate might be a hint, its turbo too.

the other ls2 twin lockers, twin winches, 24 inch fox triple bypass shocks, external res. Worth more a corner than the entire setup on your ss.

an 07 hilux daily,

i work at a suspension shop, have fitted koni stuff to all the local stuff, xr6 was definately the best after, ss was same old just tighter, do your front castor bushes they reap a fair bit in those boxes.

Not trying to be rude, but your extremely arrogant for someone who has yet to prove them self.[/b]

Well, for arguments sake, why not a 4age in your clubman?!

Wont even comment on that 'thing' and yes i realise how much 4x4 suspension is worth, and its still not worth the price in my opinion.

I somehow doubt you have driven the vehicles you have fitted the suspension to to an extent that demonstrates the improvements. Yes, obviously the ute has had every bush replaced in it, caster/camber kits fitted, i should have made myself clearer when first posting.

Can we get back on topic now?! :rolleyes:

[crackett]

very cool car i love it.

not a fan of the cross breading , but again meh.

i do beleive an na 4age can still dominate. yes it will come at an expensive price, but how much does it cost to do all custom fabrication to drop an sr in, and with s13 suspension?

ill say it again, i love the car, the period correctness is brings whilts have a stylish kit its very much my style on an 86.

everyone should just get off their high horse, 80% of people on here are purist the other 20% not, if your smart enough to drop some big arse motor in your hachi, then your smart enough to not start a crossbread mongrels debate everytime says na's are rad or i don't like big dirty nissan motors.

GOSHHHHHHHHHHH

[DRFTPG]

cumon guys get back ontopic, why the fuck does EVERY decent thread become a bitch fight these days!!

[crackett]

i'd also like to add that ive driven lots of cars, ive owned 2 sprinters, a ke, driven high horse powers commies and s14.5 making over 210 at the rubber. it does not take skill to drift a car with that much power. i can't imagine what it would be like have 210 in a hachi.

:)

kisses and hugs

[DRFTPG]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crackett @ Jan 30 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477202)</div>
i'd also like to add that ive driven lots of cars, ive owned 2 sprinters, a ke, driven high horse powers commies and s14.5 making over 210 at the rubber. it does not take skill to drift a car with that much power. i can't imagine what it would be like have 210 in a hachi.

:)

kisses and hugs[/b]

might not take skill to "drift it" but it does take skill to drift it properly!! your comment is almost like saying the d1 drivers don't have skill because they drive high powered cars?

[ae86hachiroku]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
+1 Anyone who beleives that a NA 4age is still a competetive engine in an 86 (good motor in a clubman or something ultralight) are just down right dreamers, and back up my statement here ^^^ that theres ALOT of BULLSHIT in this site. Fact is that the 4age NA is DEAD as far as competetive cars in Australia are concerned. Maybe if there was a strictly 1600cc or under class yeah they'd be a good motor, but as far as competitions such as the the the Drift Australia rounds, you wont see a NA 4age powered car in the top 10, if not 20. This is of course unless you can find your way into the next takumi's (aka ae86hachiroku) dreams, because we all know that the $10K motor, fibreglass panels and total JDM style is going to HAUL[/b]

I'd like to know why you're insulting me, when I haven't said anything offensive to you, in your members ride thread, in this thread, or any other thread.

Leave me out thanks, like you've mentioned so many times in this thread, let me build my car how I like it, and how I want to.

Thanks.

[driftke70]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SON57A @ Jan 30 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477201)</div>
cumon guys get back ontopic, why the fuck does EVERY decent thread become a bitch fight these days!![/b]


started roughly about the time medwin joined 86dc

[crackett]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SON57A @ Jan 30 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477204)</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crackett @ Jan 30 2008, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477202)
i'd also like to add that ive driven lots of cars, ive owned 2 sprinters, a ke, driven high horse powers commies and s14.5 making over 210 at the rubber. it does not take skill to drift a car with that much power. i can't imagine what it would be like have 210 in a hachi.

:)

kisses and hugs[/b]

might not take skill to "drift it" but it does take skill to drift it properly!! your comment is almost like saying the d1 drivers don't have skill because they drive high powered cars?
[/b][/quote]


I'm saying, for the majority of people on here who just strete drift a big motor isnt needed. yes this car might need. not entirly. i don't think it should be flamed though, cause its not a unnecasary modification. on some cars it is.

my main point is, everyone should just get off their high horse, 80% of people on here are purist the other 20% not, if your smart enough to drop some big arse motor in your hachi, then your smart enough to not start a crossbread mongrels debate everytime says na's are rad or i don't like big dirty nissan motors.

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae86hachiroku @ Jan 30 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477198)</div>
You have chronic issues medwin..

Now you're trying to rip on me when I haven't even said anything offensive in your members ride thread, on this thread or any thread for that matter.

Stop acting like your car is the best on this site, going around and posting pictures everywhere showing your workmanship and boasting about how it's the best and that the people who say it's not their taste are just "jealous". No one's car is THE best.

If you don't like it here, then why don't you fuck off to toymods. I'm sure a lot of people here have had enough of your shit already. Most of AE86DC likes JDM, I like JDM, fair enough you don't like it, but respect that we do.

I bet you don't even have the balls or half the brain to drive a 4AGE, for starters, this is your first AE86, and you've already gone 3SGTE, add to that, I highly doubt we'll even see any track work from you or your car, and barely any driving, it'll be the greatest show pony in all of existence. PS, the rims suck, get some taste.

Normally, I don't even bother posting in these threads, it just becomes a shit fight. But because you directly insulted me and my AE86, I can't stand it anymore.[/b]

Now, now, settle down Ken. :lol:

I wasnt trying to rip on you, although it may have come across in that sort of manner, was merely a light hearted retaliation to your comment last week....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae86hachiroku @ Jan 21 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=472293)</div>
lol he pretty much posted his members ride on another topic once again...[/b]

The only time i post pictures anywhere is if i feel that my experiences in over coming custom fabrication problems may be able to help someone else in there's, or if i like to keep the people who are actually interested in my car up to date on whats going on. I am here to share knowledge/experience i have with other enthusiests, not to make a profit out of them.

You may not think my car is the best, i certainly do not think yours is either, each to their own. I have never once said that i think my car is the best, that'd be down right stupid to do so. I am proud of the work i have done to my car, the level and the quality of which is of a far higher standard than yours in my opinion, but meh thats just my opinion again, yours will be different.

I am a regular contributor to toymods, and have never ever seen a shit fight, never seen someone post negative comments in or about someone's car, and never have had to sort through bull shit to find a piece of information. Most of DC likes JDM? I'd nearly agree with you on that one, and i respect that you and these other 95% of people on here see something in it, i personally can not see what is tasteful about it but meh, my opinion, againnnnn. But as i must respect that some people like JDM, you must respect that I for one do not in the slightest like it, my car is a display of my taste, some people have similar taste, others do not. How boring would this site be if everyone liked JDM, we'd all have boring 86's with 4age's and pop up lights.... Whooopee. :crazy:

4age, wow, 1600cc of high revving, well :blink: , revving. :2thumbs: The balls or half the brain, :lol: mate of mine and i did car club from the age of 14 in a 180B SR20DET his old man built, would still be racing it today if it hadnt been written off in a rally. Yeah its my first 86, so what?! It's engineered to be fully road registered, will be seeing track time in hill climbes, track days and private track days whenever i feel like going for an outing. (One of my clients and close friends is a maor sponsor of the local track, has a key to go drive it whenever he feels like it. :2thumbs: ) This car will be driven, more than i'd say yours is. Just because the work has been carried out to a high standard does not make it a show pony. My wheels suck?! I guess thats not as bad as my whole car sucking, i feel for you.

Can we PLEASE move on now?!

[ae86hachiroku]

bleh you fail.

Arguing over AE86dc will never end as long as your here, you are the cancer of this forum.

I'll end it there.

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ae86hachiroku @ Jan 30 2008, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477223)</div>
bleh you fail.

Arguing over AE86dc will never end as long as your here, you are the cancer of this forum.

I'll end it there.[/b]

Intellegent response Ken, easy to see why you've limited yourself to basic mods. :rolleyes:

I'm the cancer of this forum?! Well maybe i can eraticate some of the tastelessness that seems to be evident here. :lol:

[driftke70]

medwin none of the stuff you have done is out of the ordinary, sure you have money to blow on shit but your skills don't tower over anyones

[johl]

that was a funny read. worst come back in history but it was funny. "my wheels suck? nah ah urs do! nuh ah ur car sucks!"
lmao :lol:
as far as medwins car will see more track time than kens, well, kens is getting track time so i don't think u can really comment on that medwin... that is all.

untill the next round :jerry:

[86xxx]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (driftke70 @ Jan 30 2008, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477234)</div>
medwin none of the stuff you have done is out of the ordinary, sure you have money to blow on shit but your skills don't tower over anyones[/b]

Maybe not, but what has been done is to a near faultless standard, done properly not on the cheap.

What i choose to 'blow' my money on is my choice, the fact that if I'm going to do something i'll do it properly.

[ukato]

When are you people gonna learn?

"Each to their own" ;)

[orange32]

Gentleman, you don't need to like every car/style you see, but surely you can appreciate the time, effort, skill and money going into each others cars, without starting a pointless arguement to boost your ego. What is there to gain?

I couldn't car less about jdm or adm or 3sgte's or sr20's.

Each of your cars are modified to how you like, not everyone is going to like what you do, but why does it matter? If it works for you, then thats fantastic.

I don't necessarily like every car, but i can sure appreciate them for what they are and what they are built to do.

IBTL

[crackett]

there really needs to be a thread were there can be as much arguing on whatever on crossbreading.

but just out of curiosty can we have a poll on medwins and ae86hachirokus car, see who would win.

+1 for the real jap styles y0!

[driftke70]

ae86hr + 1 for modesty and having more to be modest about

[browneye]

Quote from somewhere..

"arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics...at the end of the day you are still spastic"(sic)

Grow some balls and get a life

That is all....fckn kiddies

EDIT fella with the purple car...I like this car..although not my cup of tea...at the end of the day it has been built for a
purpose and it does it well...with exceptional workmanship and also being proven that it is as good as people say.........

As for a vote for best ae86...jdm style = kens ftw
adm drift style = josh young

[lo_rolla]

I love all the cars that are being argued about. They are all good cars in their own right and all owners have the right to be proud. And I think that's where it should end, even if you don't like it, keep your thoughts to yourself cos your not gonna change a thing.

Hopefully soon mine will be near the same level as these cars are in their own right whether JDM or other.

(Coupe, 4A ~140+rwkw, JDM style)

[ae86hachiroku]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Maybe not, but what has been done is to a near faultless standard, done properly not on the cheap.[/b]

So your saying mine isn't done properly, or perhaps a lot of the guys here's cars aren't done properly?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
but just out of curiosty can we have a poll on medwins and ae86hachirokus car, see who would win.[/b]

It would be interesting, but I'd like to have no part in being compared to medwins abomination.

No more posts from me here anymore. Like you said, arguing over the internet is being in special olympics, medwin has won that, I'm not fussed.

[ke70dave]

man this thread has turned to crap yet again

i would like to express my opinion

i belive that this picture clearly represents the brain power, and ability of all who are fighting over complete non-sense









http://kookaburra.typepad.com/photos/snaps/galah.jpg

thats right, you are all..

A PACK OF GALAHS!!!! (thats a type of bird)


now i don't mind if you want to be galahs, but can we get along like these guys more?

http://galah.galahs.com.au/content/images/full/galah_0034.jpg

to the guy who made the purple hachi, man its awesome, don't listen to the idiots on this forum and their "purist" ways

to everyone else...grow up....

[AO86]

here is some video of it stolen from ns.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49TZNCOcsYw

[Klutch]

Ke70dave: I take offence to that, on behalf of my pet galah.

[MARKE70]

Wow,

If i built a car to this level (which i never will be able to both mentally and physically) i would be so bummed to see a thread about it turn into this.

fuckin piss weak.

Could have left the bullshit out of the thread out of respect to Brett if nothing else.

And as for the SR crap there's so many reasons why its good, its probably the easiest/cheapest way to get the power and reliability, sure it would be nice to see a 3s to be different but hey who cares, its a drift car its built to drift well not to please enthusiasts.

Well done to Brett, simply amazing. and in the end what we should all really care about is it slid so well on track.

What is ackerman???? i ve heard of it but don't know what it is

[shorty]

:o fuck OATH!

[kaibeecee]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MARKE70 @ Jan 30 2008, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477520)</div>
What is ackerman???? i ve heard of it but don't know what it is[/b]

ackerman is the effect of offset steering arms (stock s13 is around 15 degrees towards inside i think), which causes the inside wheel to turn in further when the tie-rod moves under steering input.

straightening the steering arm angle such as brett did, changes the ackerman angle, allowing both wheels to turn almost evenly at the same angle, which is great for drifting

[Dom86]

that vid is great!

deffinately in the top 3 86's in ozz.

the car was built for a purpose, and performs its purpose faultlessly.

if any PURIST can build an 86 that performs like this, i will shake your hand :P

if you haven't seen it, check it out!

[slydar]

read 4 pages. will read it all later.

anyway to answer the q. yes, by far best 86 in oz.

easily.

in the world.. maybe.

proofs in the pudding really.. podium first day out and 9 pages of hooplah about it..


dave youll see it this weekend.

[RobertoX]

ill be rainbow styling on your couch!

wanna do wife swapping?

[Dom86]

ill swap, does it matter if i don't have a wife/girlfriend? :P

[RobertoX]

so you bang my mate, and i bang my hand? sounds like a good swap

ok how about, i swap you and you give me your car...

ok now it sounds better

[Dom86]

:lol: :lol:

ill just stick to my hand.

[PuGZoR]

http://www.pugzor.net/bold/argue.jpg

Had to be done.

[embrace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PuGZoR @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=477914)</div>
http://www.pugzor.net/bold/argue.jpg

Had to be done.[/b]

true but still harsh

[driftke70]

over people taking the you guys are key board warriors stance, I'm above you because i don't have any firm beliefs.

[samuel]

Im getting sick of the bullshit arguments being posted here

Keep your opinions to yourselves or be removed

It is THAT simple

[DRFTAE86]

LOL....

I got a new signature.

[rthy]

haha

to all the haters...
























http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163170.jpg

[steroidchickens]

amen.

[japlish]

My question is when is Option going to give Brett a call. This is worthy of a full spread and some, maybe even a DVD.

Hey Nick I think you could cull some of the useless members on here for sure.

[driftke70]

what gets me is every heavily mod spoontang i have ever seen has always had ridiculous panel gaps, this beast seems spot on.

[DRFTPG]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rthy @ Jan 31 2008, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=478098)</div>
haha

to all the haters...
























http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/163170.jpg[/b]


possibly the best post i have EVER seen haha

[driftke70]

as far as i could tell there weren't really any haters

[v-tec]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
what gets me is every heavily mod spoontang i have ever seen has always had ridiculous panel gaps, this beast seems spot on.[/b]

I noticed that on the track day too, its like the most un-arseraped virgin mint 86 turn gansta

Watched the video today at work too, Damn good driving and the Sr obviously is the best choice he could have made. Its the smoothest driving car in the whole video

Havent really read much of the bad stuff in this thread, but if people have negative thoughts about the car, either keep em to yourself, or if its really that important that you must point out the things you dislike of the car take it up with Brett.

[Konakid]

Video was good, maybe try some quality 205/50's on the rear to increase grip up from the 195's?

[MARKE70]

yes this is one thing i was talking to Hilton about tonight. It just looked soooo stiff and unforgiving that it could be even quicker with a bit of "give" and rear tyre was what i thought would do it. Its like it has so little friction to the road that it can't slide to the full potential of the car speed wise that is.

He was still bloody quick but aye taking nothing awayfrom it, and i suppose 195's are cheaper hehehehe