CUt Springs

[upo53r]

Hey guys just bought an 84 Ke70 and i am looking to drift it a little and use it as a daily. Anyway this weekend i wish to cut the springs so it sits really low, i'm just wondering on past experiences from u goys how manycoils should i cut out of the front and rear springs? this just saves me the time of taking them out and cutting them and putting htme back in realiseing it's still to high, taking them out and cutting them again. i want it so the front and rear wheel arch sit in line with the tyre.
thanks, help appreciated.

[Jonny Rochester]

1/2 a coil per spring only, then buy new shocks.

Learn to drive hard around a track on tall soft springs. It's a good tool in learning and predicting body roll and weight transfer. Use weight transfer to your advantage. Due to the slower response of soft springs, you have to turn into the corner a bit earlier and have less room for error. It makes the S bend enjoyable when you get it right.

Only lower the car on stiffer springs and new/better shocks.

[blair]

^ its a 70, not an 86.


chop 4.5 coils off and remove shocks

[Javal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blair @ Feb 8 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=482467)</div>
chop 4.5 coils off and remove shocks[/b]

PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN.

You don't want to be feeding a newbie that kinda shit, even if you're being sarcastic.

I'd be listening to Johnny Rochester mate.

[johl]

upgrade to falcon springs and shiz. but yeh if ur gunna cut the springs get new shox

[Snoozy]

i have standard springs in my 70
cut 3 coils off and this is how it sits

Running 14x7-9 wheels
standard shocks and panhard rod
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/150424.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also... you don't need to pull the front springs out to cut them.....

[Konakid]

Wow. Okay. Don't cut standard springs, it will be shit. Take the springs out to cut springs. Use a spring compressor.

If you can't afford new shocks in the rear and the swap to ae86 front struts with new shocks then grab yourself a some ford falcon springs. Preferably out of an LTD (longwheelbase model) as they are stiffer. Cut the rear to about 260mm free height and the fronts to about 270mm free height. You don't want the car low with shit shocks (standard) as the stock damping wont be able to control the springs properly. Its not that hard to take them out to recut them anyway.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jonny Rochester @ Feb 7 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=482188)</div>
1/2 a coil per spring only, then buy new shocks.

Learn to drive hard around a track on tall soft springs. It's a good tool in learning and predicting body roll and weight transfer. Use weight transfer to your advantage. Due to the slower response of soft springs, you have to turn into the corner a bit earlier and have less room for error. It makes the S bend enjoyable when you get it right.

Only lower the car on stiffer springs and new/better shocks.[/b]

Exactly how it SHOULD be done. By learning to be quick in a stocker, you will be able to grasp the basic concepts of body roll and pitch so you can control the car. Then when you have enough cash, the suspension will make your skills more effective. Of course, if you just want to be low and hektic then ignore everything i wrote.

[Konakid]

The guards look to be standard so it doesn't really matter...

[reecegze]

everyone has mentioned ford falcon springs but what model/year do i get them out off ?

[reecegze]

do i use front and back for falcon springs or just rear

[johl]

suzuki sierra shox for the rear and i believe u can use mr2 ones for the front. i think thats what my old one had in it. can't remember year model tho

[RobertoX]

falcon springs front and rear

[Brendo]

do it properly mate, thrash it how it is now until u can afford decent suspension, Kyouteki is selling 6.5kg swift springs for $230 delivered, i have these in my car and its mad with the short stroke tokico's.

[RobertoX]

AJPS sells custom springs in any rate height and car for $200pr

and keep most coilover and ae86 stuff on the shelf!

[ke70dave]

suzuki sierra shocks are too short and too stiff in my oppinion.

have a look at this thread

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/in...showtopic=11497 (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/index.php?showtopic=11497)

got some good stuff in there.

i personnally use

Holden Station Wagin
Brand Kyb
Ext: 490
Comp: Approx 290-300mm
Product Number: 343113

in the rear of mine, they work good

you need to get falcon springs of i think its EB-AU (like early 90's to AU model)

pretty much make sure its about 6" diameter and it will fit in, you take them out of the back of the falcon

[Snoozy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4agteketo @ Feb 8 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=482579)</div>
they arent, read the build thread and you will see why i am laughing[/b]

Laugh all u want man, we took the wheels off to flare the gaurds that way they are even, and its called measuring to make sure they are the same.

i don't see pictures of your car, it must be shit...
so you can go fuck yourself.

[Gunner]

hey guys theres is a reason u can buy a variety of springs in low and high

its because cutting ur springs is illegal, aswell as stupid and dangerous, and when u kill some poor fucker cause of ur cut springs, I'm gonna be first in line to lock u up.

stop bein dodgey little tight ass's and do it right

if u want to cut springs take it to a qualified suspension specialist, for example all springs where they will cut and reconfigure your springs properly

wake the fuck up to ur selves, before u kill urself or some one else

[Gullie]

I know cut springs can be dodgey. But please explain how they can kill people

[Gullie]

Oh i see. Cheers for clearing that up. Might go get some ajps springs now.. lol

[Gunner]

also in with cut springs the car tends to high side which is also very dangerous due to it changes the direction of the car very rapidly, and this can also happen in the rear

[upo53r]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Daim @ Feb 8 2008, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=482540)</div>
i have standard springs in my 70
cut 3 coils off and this is how it sits

Running 14x7-9 wheels
standard shocks and panhard rod
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/8/4/3/150424.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also... you don't need to pull the front springs out to cut them.....[/b]


yeh bro you were right three coils is perfect, i will post pics up of it soon to show u, so thanks for your help mate! Appreciated.



As for all the negative people keep your comments to your self u really think the bull shit u dribble is going to stop me cutting my springs no!!

[Benno]

don't take it personally dude. a guy i used to work for was in a serious accident due to cut springs, series 3 rx7 hit a bump and dropped the lefthand front sring out of the captive. subframe dug into the tarmac and high-sided the car. his best mate was flung out on the passengers seat and the car landed on him.

There is a reason why is illegal, it's cos the spring is usually cut to short the remain captive under full extension. it falls out of the car, front or rear it doesn't matter, it usually never ends up good. thus why jonny suggested taking half a coil off, it will lower slightly but should still stay captive

[Gunner]

ay fuckwit, u keep your mouth shut, as has been said its illegal for a reason, everything that has been said negatively towards it, has been said because it is wrong, mate i don't give a flying sideways fuck what u do to your car, that may result in your death, but if u r intentionally putting a car on the road that will most definately endanger someone else life, u deserve to get blown up u little piss rag.

go cut ur springs, and hopefully one night thru the hills pretending ur takumi, u write ur little sick c**t ass off, and i pray that no one else is with u

and just to make it personal, my mate died in an accident cause of a little fuck that cut his springs, came around a corner to quick and front right spring came out and hit my mate goin thru an intersection at 60k, just think about what 15 very drunk 20yr olds did to him when they caught him ;)

[GOD555]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gunbz-r @ Feb 10 2008, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=483428)</div>
ay fuckwit, u keep your mouth shut, as has been said its illegal for a reason, everything that has been said negatively towards it, has been said because it is wrong, mate i don't give a flying sideways fuck what u do to your car, that may result in your death, but if u r intentionally putting a car on the road that will most definately endanger someone else life, u deserve to get blown up u little piss rag.

go cut ur springs, and hopefully one night thru the hills pretending ur takumi, u write ur little sick c**t ass off, and i pray that no one else is with u

and just to make it personal, my mate died in an accident cause of a little fuck that cut his springs, came around a corner to quick and front right spring came out and hit my mate goin thru an intersection at 60k, just think about what 15 very drunk 20yr olds did to him when they caught him ;)[/b]

You voiced your dicsontent before, and it is understood that you do not agree with him cutting his springs, so leave it at that. Who do you think you are making negative accusations about someone you don't even know. Your an ae86drivingclub hero in your own lunch box, back the fuck off or you might have 15 pissed of motherf**kers coming after you

[Gunner]

lol mate aint no need for him to be a little smart ass

those that voiced their opinion against it voiced it because it is wrong, alot of younger guys read this shit, and don't need to be fed false or improper imformation.

the amount of times i have had to fix dodgey shit because of the bs that they have read, i couldn't imagin how many people across the country, have died because of it.
if some little dick is goin to sit there and act like we're baggin him out and get upset because we're trying to make sure no one gets hurt he needs to wake up, and if i feel the need to be an asshole over it i will be, simple as that.

cutting your springs is wrong, u can buy lowered springs for under $200, and u don't need to modify or buy struts and shocks to suit. it is a better option, it works better and s safer.

[GOD555]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gunbz-r @ Feb 10 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=483445)</div>
lol mate aint no need for him to be a little smart ass[/b]

true, though accusing him of possibly killing someone is bound to have some sort of retaliation.

[Gunner]

i understand that mate, but I'm not gonna be light about it, people ignore it if u r, controversy wins everytime lol.

[crackett]

drama queens lol!

saying cut springs will deffinitly kill someone is like saying someone die at the beach today from a shark attack. could happen, but highly unlikely.

i would have to agree with both sides of the argument, i drove a stock car and got fast in that, but then i killed it cause it cause i was driving with stock sus.

i now have a ke with cut springs, lol. bring the flame :) but you have to understand, like pretty much everyone here that drives a 70 has cut springs or has at some point. there are many other dangerous modifications that people have, like a locked diff and what not. someone could spin in the rain and cut someone off...?

anyway, i really don't no why i posted this and then edited it, lol

[Konakid]

Sigh, the cut springs argument... Getting all angry isnt going to do anything. Instead tell the kids to only cut a small amount off so that they stay (reasonably) captive.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4agteketo @ Feb 9 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=482902)</div>
^^^i disagree with the sierra shocks comment...

i found that the sierra shocks match up perfectly to the AJPS 6kg rear springs, creating a firm but smooth ride, i found them much smoother than the normally used short stroke rears[/b]

+1

[skin]

sierra shocks suck ass with ajps 6kg :crazy: