AE86 - What do you drive

[sotiros86]

Hi guys, just curious as to how many people on here own JDM ae86s, and how many own ADM ones. I know that most people want a JDM one, but how many of you actually own one?

[LIL BLU MAN]

ive had adm and jdm =] but I'm guessing most in this case would be adm

[ghetto ke]

Even "ADM" Australian delivered AE86's were all imported from Japan originally, It's not like they were put together by bogans in Elizabeth/Broadmeadows/Geelong :lol: but there had to be at least XX Australian delivered "JDM" twin-cam AE86's for them to be eligible for contention in Group A racing here... interesting what happened to all of them??? some were raced others were street regged...

[yoshimitsu9]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 14 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517780)</div>
Even "ADM" Australian delivered AE86's were all imported from Japan originally, It's not like they were put together by bogans in Elizabeth/Broadmeadows/Geelong :lol: but there had to be at least XX Australian delivered "JDM" twin-cam AE86's for them to be eligible for contention in Group A racing here... interesting what happened to all of them??? some were raced others were street regged...[/b]

have you got any records proving that they existed? I'm not getting into that engineering blah blah rubbish i just wanna see it for my self, the supposed 40 delivered 4age sprinters

[riojin]

they were ADM gtv's. they exist

[LIL BLU MAN]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 14 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517780)</div>
Even "ADM" Australian delivered AE86's were all imported from Japan originally, It's not like they were put together by bogans in Elizabeth/Broadmeadows/Geelong :lol: but there had to be at least XX Australian delivered "JDM" twin-cam AE86's for them to be eligible for contention in Group A racing here... interesting what happened to all of them??? some were raced others were street regged...[/b]

i don know what this has to do with "what YOU drive" not having a go at you or anything but this discussion just causes lots of arguement between who wants solid proof of the existance of these o.g adm's with 4age factory build in, and with who just guesses they exist, then again this doesnt really matter/apply to me so argue on if wanted

[v-tec]

ADM with a twist of JDM

Its as fresh as the coke with lemon


(not very fresh)

[ghetto ke]

Someone must have driven them at some time since 1983-1987... doubt they would be active on this or any other AE86 related forum tho. There is no doubt they did exist - my question is did any survive??? For example Stephen Toth owned chassis code AE86-0000023 (Literally the 23rd AE86 off the factory) and raced it in Australia.

http://www.club4ag.com/pictures/contributions/STUVWXYZ/Stephen_Toth_AE86.jpg (pic: club4ag)

which I believe is now campained by Chris O'Shannessy aka COS61AE86RACER (note #61?) I'm not sure if car was originally one of these Aust. delivered for Gr. A (but to be CAMS log-booked it had to be factory twin-cam etc. Although I think IPRA rules you can use any engine from manufacturer family?)

http://www.uq.net.au/~zzgwalke/team/cos-motorsport/blur.jpg

[rich_86]

i have currently adm levin 16v bigport, adm levin 4ac, jdm trueno 16v smallport....thus far to many for one person also another shell sitting awaiting....

[dr1ft-pig]

i drive an ADM shell full of JDM goodies :D

[driftke70]

pretty much everything in my keto is jdm except the shell.

[ukato]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 14 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517818)</div>
Someone must have driven them at some time since 1983-1987... doubt they would be active on this or any other AE86 related forum tho. There is no doubt they did exist - my question is did any survive??? For example Stephen Toth owned chassis code AE86-0000023 (Literally the 23rd AE86 off the factory) and raced it in Australia.[/b]
That car still exist and is currently being rebuilt

And who cares about if people drive a ADM or JDM sprinter
There all the same to me...

[RolandGTV85]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sotiros86 @ Apr 14 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517748)</div>
Hi guys, just curious as to how many people on here own JDM ae86s, and how many own ADM ones. I know that most people want a JDM one, but how many of you actually own one?[/b]


Ive owned both! Currently 2x JDM

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/in...showtopic=30811 (http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/board/index.php?showtopic=30811)

[Ae86sam]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yoshimitsu9 @ Apr 14 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517793)</div>
have you got any records proving that they existed? I'm not getting into that engineering blah blah rubbish i just wanna see it for my self, the supposed 40 delivered 4age sprinters[/b]

They exist... Went to look at one for sale awhile ago...

[jasstv]

have an adm , would love a jdm though :lol:

[rich_86]

ukato - they are not the same ADM and JDM own both and then you will start to see all the differnces

[ukato]

stock form, yes there different
but the shells are all the same, in fact we all have JDM shells :o

[ghetto ke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AE86Sam @ Apr 15 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=518193)</div>
They exist... Went to look at one for sale awhile ago...[/b]

What were they asking for it? Anymore insight? If "ADM" spec sprinters were originally sold around the $15K mark in the 80's the "JDM" ones must have been closer to $20K (that was a fair bit of $ back in the day!!!)


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ukato @ Apr 16 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=518759)</div>
stock form, yes there different
but the shells are all the same, in fact we all have JDM shells :o[/b]

^^ That was part of what I was getting at - same body but varying trim/drive-line for different domestic markets.

[rich_86]

jdm don't have the side intrusion bars....and I'm pretty sure the underneath is different as well as the exhaust runs a different path and has heat sheilds underneath...

[ae86hachiroku]

The side intrusions just come from the doors, which technically isn't really part of the shell. Though you can probably argue the doors are JDM as well, just modified over there.

[rich_86]

thus i saved like maybe five kilos....haha...no side intrusions on my jdm..

[Group A]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 14 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=517818)</div>
Someone must have driven them at some time since 1983-1987... doubt they would be active on this or any other AE86 related forum tho. There is no doubt they did exist - my question is did any survive??? For example Stephen Toth owned chassis code AE86-0000023 (Literally the 23rd AE86 off the factory) and raced it in Australia.

http://www.club4ag.com/pictures/contributions/STUVWXYZ/Stephen_Toth_AE86.jpg (pic: club4ag)

which I believe is now campained by Chris O'Shannessy aka COS61AE86RACER (note #61?) I'm not sure if car was originally one of these Aust. delivered for Gr. A (but to be CAMS log-booked it had to be factory twin-cam etc. Although I think IPRA rules you can use any engine from manufacturer family?)

http://www.uq.net.au/~zzgwalke/team/cos-motorsport/blur.jpg[/b]

COS's Sprinter is not an Ex Group A car, he is a friend of mine and I was present at the car's first test session. It's an ex street car converted for racing in 3J.

Group A was a global class, not Australian. Therefore, manufacturers had to build 5000 of the base specicfication and could sell them anywhere in the world. CAMS was obliged to issue Group A logbooks to any homologated car, even if none were sold in Australia.

[shinobi]

you can't say We all have JDM shells
we all have japanese built shells
infact japanese built cars
JDM means it was built and sold originally to and for the Japanese Domestic market
ADM means it was built and sold originally to and for the Australian Domestic market

so you either got a JDM or ADM AE86
or a ADM with JDM parts fitted to it
or vice versa
and BTW no matter how much JDM parts you throw on a ADM it will never be a true JDM



i own two JDM GT-APEX

[ukato]

JDM is just a wank factor...

[shinobi]

hardly dude

[gg004]

once there modified it really is not worth all the arguing about. this adm jdm crap is a load of shit. it only matters if your comparing stock 86s. and don't go flaming me about all the little differences i've driven both and theres not really that much different when you consider the cars as a whole

[gg004]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shinobi @ Apr 17 2008, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519151)</div>
and BTW no matter how much JDM parts you throw on a ADM it will never be a true JDM[/b]


but who would really be able to tell if you put in the right parts its all the same

[sotiros86]

You can tell if a car is JDM or not no matter how much money you spend, like if you are driving a coupe, then it is odviously JDM, and when you pop the bonnet and they see a compliance sticker, then they will also know that it is JDM.

[ukato]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sotiros86 @ Apr 17 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519324)</div>
You can tell if a car is JDM or not no matter how much money you spend, like if you are driving a coupe, then it is odviously JDM, and when you pop the bonnet and they see a compliance sticker, then they will also know that it is JDM.[/b]

ADM or JDM?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2061352503_2f974391e1.jpg

[ghetto ke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Group A @ Apr 16 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=518910)</div>
COS's Sprinter is not an Ex Group A car, he is a friend of mine and I was present at the car's first test session. It's an ex street car converted for racing in 3J.

Group A was a global class, not Australian. Therefore, manufacturers had to build 5000 of the base specicfication and could sell them anywhere in the world. CAMS was obliged to issue Group A logbooks to any homologated car, even if none were sold in Australia.[/b]


Yes 5000 globally, but to be homolageted for Group A here and CAMS log-booked it had to be an original 4AGE 16V etc not a converted ADM 4AC. These cars were brought in and sold though Toyota dealerships, with not all of them going to race teams... hence some were complied and street regged in the 80's.

[us_ae86]

usdm. LOL

[hatstand]

mines a jdm gtv reshelled into an adm shell, so best of both. don't really care though, it's all about the drive. :greenbounce:

[sotiros86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ukato @ Apr 17 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519329)</div>
ADM or JDM?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2061352503_2f974391e1.jpg[/b]

Its ADM. I only know though because i was looking at your build the other day, and admiring how awesome your car looks.

If i hadnt seen your build, i probibly would have said JDM though.

[shinobi]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ukato @ Apr 17 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519329)</div>
ADM or JDM?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2061352503_2f974391e1.jpg[/b]

ADM hahaha nice square ADM MIRRORS????
and I'm sick of people saying theres no difference between them
its insulting......
So I'm an idiot that spent a considerable amount of money extra on something that was "the same thing"
Stupid me!!
Trust me theres too many things to change up to make an ADM look completely like a JDM
and i wouldn't be very cost effective either

[ukato]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shinobi @ Apr 18 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519660)</div>
ADM hahaha nice square ADM MIRRORS????[/b]
Oh no!, I don't have JDM mirrors!
I guess I have to drive my car off a cliff now.....
Oh by the way, kouki mirrors are on the way ;)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shinobi @ Apr 18 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519660)</div>
and I'm sick of people saying theres no difference between them
its insulting......[/b]
Just to piss you off one more time i'll say it
there the same! HAHA

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shinobi @ Apr 18 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519660)</div>
So I'm an idiot that spent a considerable amount of money extra on something that was "the same thing"
Stupid me!![/b]
At least you admit it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shinobi @ Apr 18 2008, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519660)</div>
Trust me theres too many things to change up to make an ADM look completely like a JDM
and i wouldn't be very cost effective either[/b]
I've seem to have done it....
I have seen JDM sprinters for around 11 - 13k and I can say I have spent least then that and thats including the car and mods...

I'm not saying I hate JDM AE86's, in fact I love them!
I'm just saying it shouldn't be such a big deal, at the end of the day there all AE86s :2thumbs:

[shinobi]

Sorry but ive seen your build up now and i hate to tell you it'll nevr be a real JDM
Just ADM with JDM parts
and i doubt i've spent more than you
6.5k on the road GT-APEX baby
and also good luck with the interior that will be expensive

[ukato]

I don't care if my car isn't a "real" JDM AE86
I'm building it the way I want and the way i want it to look like.

[JDM-086]

everyone drives different 86's each to their own, no need to slag anyone for their choices/likes/preferences if anything u should be commending his efforts because his car is awesomely built with care and quality parts.... if he had chromies or something like that different story. but its a well put together car with lots of JDM goodies and MORE. so stop with the "oh mines pure jdm yo" shit and get back on thread topic and over the current one.

[shinobi]

more like the way a JDM looks
so guess your in contradiction to your own arguement
JDM is the best
nice car by the way

[ukato]

thanks

I like the way a kouki AE86 looks, so I decided to go in that direction
I wanted to rebuild the whole car, so I couldn't justify buying a pricey JDM AE86 to start off with so I found an ADM one for 600 bucks

[shinobi]

can't wait to see it finished bro

[Dom86]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 16 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=518803)</div>
What were they asking for it? Anymore insight? If "ADM" spec sprinters were originally sold around the $15K mark in the 80's the "JDM" ones must have been closer to $20K (that was a fair bit of $ back in the day!!!)


^^ That was part of what I was getting at - same body but varying trim/drive-line for different domestic markets.[/b]

From what ive heard, ADM sprinters sold for $3500 back in the day.

If anyone thinks JDM sprinters and ADM sprinter are the same thing, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT!

There are massive differences. LSD, Twin Cam, Interior, Electrics, front & rear Lights just to name a few. All which add up to a better car all round.

The way i look at it is, we, Australia got the "85".

[Group A]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (741 @ Apr 17 2008, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=519337)</div>
Yes 5000 globally, but to be homolageted for Group A here and CAMS log-booked it had to be an original 4AGE 16V etc not a converted ADM 4AC. These cars were brought in and sold though Toyota dealerships, with not all of them going to race teams... hence some were complied and street regged in the 80's.[/b]

I don't think that's correct. According to Bob Holden, my car was a standard ADM 4AC street car for a couple of years before he converted it to a 4AGE powered Group A Touring Car.

Mind you, most Group A Touring cars were built, from a new shell and new parts, they didn't start with a complete car as such.