for ke70. t18 diff+lsd. or locker

[dunga70]

i want a locked diff or well i don't want an open diff. can easily weld mine. but been hearing a few things from teddy. so i ask you guys of your experiences with a locked diff.??
also anyone have info on how to convert a t18 diff to fit into a ke70? how hard it is and what is needed? cause an lsd wouldn't be bad and would save me axles head ache and tires..
yeh so post ya exeriences and info up
cheers jay.

[Konakid]

had a locker for ages, its not bad if you get new trailing arm bushes, doesn't twist the diff as much but still chirps and clunks all that. But worth if for sure if your into driving hard.

Little bit scary in the wet have to dive around it but with decent rear tyres, is manageable.

[Gullie]

ive found locked diffs are fine. sometimes a bastard in carparks but you'll get over it.
theyre also heaps of fun and very predictable

converting t18 diff to ke70 you need a custom tailshaft (thats if you still have a 4k)
or t50, you use rear half of the t18 tailshaft front half ae86 shaft.
youll also need sw21 camry handbrake cables.
and lsds are not cheap..

If i was you i'd just lock your diff and have fun with it.
but if you have a large budget go t series + lsd.

[meadan]

i had a locked t18 diff in my ke70 until i snapped an axle.
I drove it everyday and never really found anything to complain about. Once you get used to it and learn the characteristics of your car its quite easy to drive safely. I find driving with an open diff so much worse actually, corners don't like acceleration at all.

The only thing is axles are easier to break. Tires don't matter, they are clearly going to die anyways, otherwise you wouldn't even think about a locker.

[Ru-iki]

Lockers are cool. If its primarily a street car then Id say save for a decent lsd. It will have more manners and the cops wont hear you chirp on a U turn and write you a ticket.

Lockers are cool though, don't get me wrong. My mechanic said he can get spools made for cheap too, like a hundred bucks!

[Konakid]

Bad
- faster wearing front and rear tyres
- lots of clunking at slow speed turns <30
- parking is annoying
- heavy steering
- fuck out centre bearing eventually
- wet weather understeer


Good

- Cheap as fuck
- so predictable
- wont wear out
- people go "OMG it has t3h locker oneeleven" when it chirps.
- everyone thinks your a sick dwipta

[dunga70]

so how hard is the welded center to take in and out?? how hard are axles to replace?? spool would be very nice. so itsa defect for a locker and a spool yes??
thanks for ya help ive heard bad things what other my front tires last less time than me rears do anyway lol ive been though likt 2 sets of fronts and still got like 75-80% left on rear lol and it doesnt understeer lol.
thanks for ya experience.. anyone else got anything to say about locked diffs?

[samuek]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gullie @ May 14 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=531091)</div>
ive found locked diffs are fine. sometimes a bastard in carparks but you'll get over it.
theyre also heaps of fun and very predictable

converting t18 diff to ke70 you need a custom tailshaft (thats if you still have a 4k)
or t50, you use rear half of the t18 tailshaft front half ae86 shaft.
youll also need sw21 camry handbrake cables.
and lsds are not cheap..

If i was you i'd just lock your diff and have fun with it.
but if you have a large budget go t series + lsd.[/b]


what lsd's fit into a t-18, can you put a jdm ae86 cusco 2way into it? if not what fits into them?

this has had me puzzled for a while!!!

[Konakid]

Yes you can put jdm aftermarket diffs into your t series.

[federal]

the handbrake cables needed are sv11....

as far as lsd's go....

Any lsd to suit a zenki ae86 will bolt straight into a t18 diff...and if you know what your doing you can bolt in a kouki lsd

[shorty]

i've had a minispooled diff and a weldie

found both handle the same, but heard minispools are less harsh on ur axles?

weldie = cheap $50 approx or free if u know the right people

minispool = $150?+

lsd $500-$700 + but more friendly on ur gearbox, tires, and clutch!

so in the long run a lsd is more beneficial for ur car and would end up costing u less in busted g/box's, clutch's and tires :2thumbs:

^ and i KNOW some1 on here will disagree with the above said

[Jonny Rochester]

Locker is good for 4 months.

LSD is good for 6 years.

[Robo86]

^^yeah

if ur going t18 just save for a cheap 2way

got my trd 2way in housing with 4.3 for 300 at my door, its still tight as

[ke70dave]

lets get one thing straight here one and for all.

minispool, locked diff, welded diff are ALL IDENTICLE in how they work, in how they treat axels and tyre, and they way they drive on the road.

this is a welded diff

http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/Feb%2006/images/welded%207-5.jpg

this is a mini spool (couldnt really find a decent image in my 20secs of searching, but you get the idea)

http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/images/pageimages/opencarriercase.gif

a mini spool is just a lump of metal that joins both your axels rigidly to your crown wheel.

a welded diff is just an agricultural way of creating a mini spool.

if your going to lock your diff, just buy a mini spool, don't stuff around with welding unless you can do it for free.

but ultimately you want to get an LSD, but that requires cash!

btw anyone know the difference between a mini spool and a full spool? does a full spool even exist? i think ive heard it before...

[johl]

this is the lsd I'm getting so don't snap another axel. really cheap
http://www.nengun.com/cusco/lsd-type-mz

[Gavin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johl @ May 15 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=531446)</div>
this is the lsd I'm getting so don't snap another axel. really cheap
http://www.nengun.com/cusco/lsd-type-mz[/b]
why are those lsd's so cheap there normally around $1200

[RobertoX]

cos they are a wholesaler, they are online only

don't keep stock to my knowledge

and then on top of that you have to pay shipping, gst, duties etc (if it comes to over 1k with shipping)

no warranty etc etc

[Konakid]

Federals locker lasted over 2.5 years with no oil change.

A mini spool just replaces the spider gears where as a full spool replaces the entire centre

so welding is a mini spool effectively.

[dunga70]

yeh thats right.. teddy has a t18 diff in his car.. with lsd.. i don't wanna do a diff conversion.. but lsds and mini spools sound nasty.. I'm running 13x7 with 185/ 60 only a light streatch but thats a fair bit of grip.. its a daily i drive from the shire to chatswood every day for work. its pretty much one side of sydney to the other.. ill be fucked if i snap and axle on way to work. grr someone give me lsd :D

[federal]

you can still drive fine with a snapped axle...

i drove around with a snapped axle for months...

[samuek]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (truenosedan @ May 15 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=531454)</div>
cos they are a wholesaler, they are online only

don't keep stock to my knowledge

and then on top of that you have to pay shipping, gst, duties etc (if it comes to over 1k with shipping)

no warranty etc etc[/b]


its $880 to your door and warranty but you have to pay to send it back is the only down fall, but your right parts like this they don't keep in stock and you have to wait about 20 days till you get it

[E7]

if you get a welded diff make sure it is welded very tight, they have alot of strain put on them. spesh if you are fully sick and do driftos and burnouts. and when first instaled drive around for a week or so and change the diff oil just to get bits of loose metle out from the diff so they don't go into the center bearing or it will get in there and jam and there fore blow up. i have had it done to mine shitty and wasnt good at all. good for a few weeks but then it was fucked.


get it done good. key words

[samuek]

my mate did one in his KE and it lasted a couple days... the one before lasted for a long time but the wheel broke off when he

hit a gutter so it technicaly didnt brake, a good job will last you a while!!!

[dunga70]

i heard if u snap an axle allt hat holds the wheel on is the bearing... so could b crusing and bang your own wheel rolls past ya and then ya scraping..
its a daily and i dunno if i wanna do it.. i want the effects.. just not all the problems with it lol

[E7]

go lsd then

[200BSX]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Meathead #2 @ May 14 2008, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=531128)</div>
Bad
- fuck out centre bearing eventually[/b]
really?
the pinion bearing in the diff from shit getting into it from welding?
or the actual centre bearing in the middle of the tailshaft? why would that be?

[seek]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dunga70 @ May 17 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=532525)</div>
i heard if u snap an axle allt hat holds the wheel on is the bearing... so could b crusing and bang your own wheel rolls past ya and then ya scraping..
its a daily and i dunno if i wanna do it.. i want the effects.. just not all the problems with it lol[/b]


there is also 4 bolts holding the axle to the main housing. I would be very much interested to know what you would be doing to shear all four bolts off, heh.

[E7]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (200BSX @ May 17 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=532617)</div>
really?
the pinion bearing in the diff from shit getting into it from welding?
or the actual centre bearing in the middle of the tailshaft? why would that be?[/b]



metel from the welds coming off and finding its way up their. then it fucks it self

[Konakid]

The centre bearing in the tailshaft because it gets stressed as the diff flexes and moves within the trailing arms. Cuurrently having a new bearing put in my tailshaft because of this. Was gonna go for a one piece shaft but then stress goes to the gearbox.

Got nolathane trailing arm bushes so they should stop it flexing as much and make it last longer.

[johl]

has anyone spaced the centre bearing down lower? cuz the front half out of the gearbox is perpindicular to the ground and the second half comes down on like a 10 degree angle? I'm thinking about trying to straighten this out by fabricating some spacers and using longer bolts to put it back in.
any thoughts?

[Konakid]

I think its useless because most cars are so hekticly low bro that you'll find the rear half shaft actually points up...