normal or power steering arms

[darkon]

I know this topic has been kinda done but i have done alot of searching hours actually and not many people have said if it is actually worth the extra coin.

so pretty much on a *e7*

ae86 struts
xt130 lca

I can get ps arms for around $200

or i can get non for around $50


the car is mainly just for a bit of fun maybe the occasional drift day nothing to competive

So speaking from people's personal experience is the PS arms really that much of an improvement to warrant me spending an extra $150 on them


cheers guys

[70XIN]

Absolutely definitely, one of the best bang-for-buck mods you can do if drifting is your cup of tea

[anastasios]

it does kinda come down to personal preference and your cars setup

[Robo86]

if you have to buy steering arms, buy p.s arms, youl find some on here for 150ish

[darkon]

yeah I've found some for $175 delivered, still waiting to see if i can get some for $160 delivered so i am thinking go for the ps arms.

what are the actually advantages over non? more lock? faster steering?

[Robo86]

^^ more lock as there shorter than normal arms

[slydar]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (anastasios @ Aug 6 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=572368)</div>
it does kinda come down to personal preference and your cars setup[/b]

i would like to know if you have any direct experience with an ae86, or ke70, which used both?

i can say, even if you don't drift, you want them.

it "quickens' the steering, not just more lock.

for every degree you turn the steering wheel, the wheels are turning further. for a sports car, the ae86 is a little on the slow side to say the least. the p.s arms improve this.

my last (only) imported ae86 i owned was certainly not a drift car(when it arrived), much more of a time attack car, and it had power steering knuckle arms fitted.

the steering effort, for most any male driver, is nothing to worry about.

[riojin]

ps arms = 2.5 turns to lock
non-ps arms = 3 turns to lock

that doesnt look at good but you have to remember you also get MORE lock with the ps arms

[shakes]

PS arms + ae86 struts = best bang for buck mod to my ae71 add a cheap strut brace and for a daily it's improved the car massively. Personally the next step is s13 coil over stuff, but that will make it not so daily friendly any more.

Not only does it turn alot quicker, I can also do a U-turn over not much more than 2 standard lane's without breaking traction.

[RobertoX]

+1 for PeniS arms

[darkon]

well I think I'm convinced to buy the PS arms and I'm happy enough with paying $175


Now just NEED SOME ae86 STRUTS!!!! cos I'm not forking out for the arms till I've got the struts to go with em lol

[DRFTR86]

ps arms are the best, do get them

i quietly got mine for 145.50 posted of a sponsor on here :whistling:

[ke70dave]

ive got s13 gear, which i hear is pretty much same as power steering arms in terms of lock

i don't drift my car at all, but i find the quick steering effect brilliant for normal driving

don't have to change positions of your hands when taking corners etc

only thing you have to keep your hands UBER steady when going at like 100km/h, very small movements do very big things

but if you got a decent wheel alignment and decent tyres, then its all fine, keeps you on your toes though...

[Hachi Roku]

how about just normal xt130 ps arms, what makes the 86 arms different?

just wondering

[Ru-iki]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (riojin @ Aug 7 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=572497)</div>
ps arms = 2.5 turns to lock
non-ps arms = 3 turns to lock

that doesnt look at good but you have to remember you also get MORE lock with the ps arms[/b]


Is it truly 2.5, lock to lock? The number of turns is set by the rack and pinion tooth pattern, not the steering arms. Shorter steering arms work on a tighter radius which attains greater angle for the same displacement of the steering rack. The only way they could reduce the number of turns is if the wheel bottoms out on the chassis after 2.5 turns.

On topic edit: I have gone the other way with a quaife Rack and Pinion. Its great to use but drifters will want more lock. For this reason, Id say PS arms are more of a drift mod, where the lock is very important.

No point getting too excited about your steering system unless you've got a tight rack to play with.

[pebbles]

xt130's did not come with pwoer steering,
the steering arms on xt130's can be used with 86 struts, i think they are either the same or slightly longer than standard 86 steering arms(makeing them the same or less lock)

86 ps arms are shorter than standard arms makeing them have more lock because of the greater angle the steering can push the strut to