View Full Version : Beading BIG stretch...
Son_Ya
12th August 2008, 06:00 PM
Obviously as tittle states...
No one in my area has an elephant for beading stretched tyres and I know it can be done buy filling the tyre with something flamable and then lighting it to cause and explosion that instantly seats the bead of the tyre and then you just inflat it...
What I would like to know is what to use. I've tried a few things around the house that i thought would work but none of them BANG big enough to do the job.
I've been told of a few other ways but they either don't work or are just too much of a pain in the arse and still don't work...
Tryin to get 205 on a 10....
Please...
some one must know....
af300e
12th August 2008, 06:53 PM
Butane? I envisage disaster.........
Simon-AE86
12th August 2008, 06:55 PM
what profile is the 205?
flameable stuff usually works, but takes a few goes
Roku_70
12th August 2008, 07:00 PM
use a brake cleaner or any liquid with a thin composite. things like rp7 do not usually hit hard enough i have found. i always lubricate the inner side of the wheel with tyre lube in order for it to slide better. good luck with it
Konakid
12th August 2008, 07:25 PM
You'll most probably need to suspend the wheel by the tyre either side and squish in a bike tube under the bottom bead/rim gap so it'll hold air
Even then, good luck.
Matt-AE86
12th August 2008, 07:48 PM
I had many problems fitting 195 Adrenalines to my 9" watas as the side walls and tyre itself is so hard, no problems fitting nankangs though. No type of banging would puit them on, in regards to flame tricks. I then took them to my local tyre store that fits truck tyres. they should have a bead blaster. They did 1 for me, and couldnt do the other.
I then went to the bike shop and got hte small tube available. I put it in the space with less gap. In this case there was more gap at the front of the rim, so i pushed the tire to the front and there was a small gap at the back, i packed the tube in there only slightly so when it was inflated it grabbed the tyre and rim, pumped it up and it went on.
I did have some issues with the tube trick ie; tube getting caught, tube exploding.
Best case would be truck tyre shop. Always quote its for the track and they usually will do it for you.
Good luck Cleckleh.
steroidchickens
12th August 2008, 07:50 PM
what sort of rim is it.
easiest way i find without a blaster is.
fit the tyre, seat the rear bead (takes a bit of hard yakka).
remove wheel and tyre from tyre machine, get a larger tyre,
sit wheel and tyre in larger tyre with the seated bead facing the bottom tyre
put pressure on the centre of the rim forcing the tyre to stretch and pump it up at the same time.
takes a bit. i just purchised a bead blaster for myself the other day. worth while investment!
marvis
12th August 2008, 07:52 PM
Brake cleaner seems to be ftw. Have a look on youtube to get an idea on how to do it.
marvis.
Son_Ya
12th August 2008, 08:28 PM
Yeah.....
I watched the youtube vids...
Judging from them either brake cleaner or aero start seems to be the go....
Thanx guys...
Roo
12th August 2008, 10:08 PM
pretty much anything thing will work you just have to get it in the right spot, lynx worked on mine :P
Vezza
14th August 2008, 03:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Roo @ Aug 12 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=574847)</div>
pretty much anything thing will work you just have to get it in the right spot, lynx worked on mine :P[/b]
Hmm... the smell of teenage boys and burning rubber, sounds ghey. But whatever gets that rubber on!
Toy-Yoda
14th August 2008, 02:34 PM
RP7, works with my 4X4 anyway........ Pretty much anything aerosol and highly flammable is worth a look.......
mattyn
14th August 2008, 04:30 PM
tried hairspray?? its surprisingly explosive... :ph34r:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAw2CofWBKY&NR=1
samuel
14th August 2008, 04:58 PM
Geezus titty fucking christ
Lucky he still has a pair of nuts after that one!
Dom86
15th August 2008, 01:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (steroidchickens @ Aug 12 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=574786)</div>
takes a bit. i just purchised a bead blaster for myself the other day. worth while investment![/b]
Where does one perchase a bead Blaster from???
marvis
15th August 2008, 01:15 AM
If you scream at it a bit it helps.
How did it go, if you have tried?
samuel
15th August 2008, 01:18 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dom86 @ Aug 15 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=575701)</div>
Where does one perchase a bead Blaster from???[/b]
Bead Blasters R Us
biggo
15th August 2008, 08:40 AM
what tyre profile is the 205? we got a 205/60 on a 15x12 with a can of carby cleaner and a 17" tyre with bricks on top.
and as marvis said, tyres can hear you, so go ape shit with the mum jokes :D
Dom86
15th August 2008, 09:04 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Aug 14 2008, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=575706)</div>
Bead Blasters R Us[/b]
oh, ILL LOOK them up! :teehee:
Mr Fujiwara
15th August 2008, 11:08 AM
i find somthing that really helps, is having air coming into the tire as your exploding...
one other thing, do you have the Cores in the valve stems? if they are in there they restrict flow like CRAZY, and you'll find, as i did, you may get the explosion to seat the beads momentarily. and as the gasses inside cool, pressure drops, and since you don't have the pressure from the hose to take over, the tyre just falls off beads again (many insults yelled at tyres due to this)
i use "start ya bastard" cheap version of AeroStart,
make sure you push one side of the tyre down as HARD as you possibly can, if you don't have weights holidng one side down.
but yeah, id say make sure you've got it connected to an airompressor, it helps, plus it gives a good souce of Oxygen to aid explosions :P
let us know how you go.
Son_Ya
15th August 2008, 05:13 PM
Hye guys....
For Biggo .... Tyre size is 195 50 15....
I won't be running that size, just useing an old tyre I had to experiment....
Gunna make my own baby elephant (bead blaster)
Bought a compressor from supercheap on the way home.
Bonus it came with 20m worth of air hose too. ( can never have too much hose :2thumbs: )
Gunna pick up the valve and unions tommorow...
Hopfully total cost will be about $150....
Think to buy a proper one is like 450. Seen them on Ebay in the states for 700!!!!!!!!
I keep you informed on how I go....
Son_Ya
16th August 2008, 05:24 PM
Hey fellas...
Baby elephant is built and works jsut as it should...
total cost is as follows..
Air compressor from supercheap... $99
Also came with another 20m of air hose witch was an added bonus.
inch and a half ball valve and 2 connections.. purched from Tony powell hose suplies $51
I still have to get a small valve so as once the tank is full I can remove the air line,
but I'm guessing it'll only cost a few bucks. Ten at most $10
TOTAL : $161
So there you have it... For a few hours of running around and a bit of welding I have a nice little pet elephant that only cost me $161 ... Too easy.
Moony31
16th August 2008, 06:40 PM
go to tyre and wheel solutions in Brisbane just off old northern rd robby king always has no trouble with my stuff 195/50/15 on 9.5''
Son_Ya
16th August 2008, 08:05 PM
I don't need to now...
Wish I had some nice 9 inchers...
Ahh why are cool wheels soo expensive and hard to get...
Really think Slydar should give me his rims :yes:
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