R32 brakes all round

[sundee]

hey so i have a fully set of R32 gtst rotors and calipers.. late model so 4 pot fronts and 2 pot rears, in my garage from when i had my 1600 and was going to use them on it.

has anyone put R32 breaks onto an 86 strut/hub assembly?

they bolt up to the S13 knuckle but i dont want to use S13 front because of the wak geometry and character that that setup has..

my ideal front end is 86 struts, adj LCA, and pillow ball castor rods, and hopefully with the R32 rotor n caliper.

ive done a bit of searching, but havent found a thread that has lot of good info.. ppl talk about it but no tek info..

it will need custom brackets and re- drill 32 rotors to 4 x 114.3 ... but is their any problems i will run into that u know of..

im also going to weight up each item.. caliper and rotor from the 32 and 86 and see how much unsprung weight i will add.. or loose..

if anyone has any info that would be huge..
thanks

[Hen may possibly be a nut]

You can use the FC caliper adaptor drawings floating and change them to suit R32 calipers. You need to keep an eye on clearance between the caliper and the wheel spokes, then look around for a suitable disc. You can either bolt the disc to the back of the hub as the AE86 does (not a 4 by 114.3 bolt spacing), or slip a disc over the front of the hub, which may require the hub machined down slightly.

So it can be done, but I'm not sure if the extra effort over FC calipers would be worth it.

Hen

[sundee]

thanks Hen..
i want to use the gear i have so i dont mind what it takes to get them to work..atleast it will be a bit different. im going to see if it will work with the 32 stock rotor 1st and go from their i think

[Javal]

Brakes.

They are called 'brakes'. Not breaks.

[sundee]

Brakes.

They are called 'brakes'. Not breaks.

well atleast one things for sure .. u do fit your signature description!
you knew what i meant so build a bridge, the thread is asking about technical info not how to spell.
if u dont have anything constructive to add to the topic y bother?

[Konakid]

well atleast one things for sure .. u do fit your signature description!
you knew what i meant so build a bridge, the thread is asking about technical info not how to spell.
if u dont have anything constructive to add to the topic y bother?

Because people who are generally more knowledgeable and therefore older who could actually help you with your qeustion didn't grow up with MSN and text messaging so they will think you are just some punk kid who is a dreamer and totally disregard your thread because of it.

See?

[slide86]

Brakes.

They are called 'brakes'. Not breaks.

bastard....you know this is my favorite :shout:

i have s14 BRAKES on my car.

just use an st141 strut....it all bolts straight on. just re drill the disc.

you might want to get a spacer between the caliper and strut to correct the offset

then you have the problem that the steering arm for an 86 doesnt bolt to a st141 strut. i overcame this problem....im not saying how tho, cause i dont want to be liable for anyone elses car

[sundee]

Because people who are generally more knowledgeable and therefore older who could actually help you with your qeustion didn't grow up with MSN and text messaging so they will think you are just some punk kid who is a dreamer and totally disregard your thread because of it.

See?

Well i stand corrected, Though if your going to agree with what Javal said maybe you could get your spelling correct aswell. Qeustion, im pretty sure is spelt Question.. "see"?

instead of just reading and looking for spelling and grammer to pick on, you could read the questions asked and the info that has been given to know im not just a "dreaming punk kid"

sooo back to the topic.....

[sundee]

bastard....you know this is my favorite :shout:

i have s14 BRAKES on my car.

just use an st141 strut....it all bolts straight on. just re drill the disc.

you might want to get a spacer between the caliper and strut to correct the offset

then you have the problem that the steering arm for an 86 doesnt bolt to a st141 strut. i overcame this problem....im not saying how tho, cause i dont want to be liable for anyone elses car


hehe i think ill let you keep that idea if you dont want to be liable again..

i know one main issue will be finding rims with enough spacing for to clear the caliper, so i want to mount the disc in the original position behind the hub but i cant think of any issuse i may run into yet... with the stock 32 rotor the hat hight maybe to high.. im not sure yet

[Konakid]

What motor you running?

there was an article on an AE86 in japan that had 32gtr brakes and wheels with im presuming s13 struts. But then again, that had a 450ps SR20 so it was warranted.

The problem is that you will need to run high offset 15's with spacers to clear, if they do at all.

Would be far cheaper and easier to just go ae86 strut with FC caliper upgrade, for a bit over 1000 bucks its cheap as chips for the improvement.

Rear would have to use custom caliper brackets but then again, why not just get a drum T series diff and use RT/ST141/142 corona discs and calipers. A very easy, cheap and effective rear option.

[land yacht]

to add to what "konakid" has said, the corona rear setup is being looked at currently, should be "re-released" shortly with the option of 2 or 4 pot calipers.

so there you have your 4 front 2 rear sorted, and all with easy to get parts, in my opinion, just sell the 32 brakes and go from there

[sundee]

i think i could get some decent offset wheels, it would just depend on the disc.. engine will be a 20v turbo.. about 220 - 250 kw
.. ive really gotta mock this up and see if it will be worth while.
see i also have the R32 non abs master as well

i sat the rotor n caliper in my 14's last night.. looks like they would fit under them..if i mounted the disc on the original 86 position.. was on a pair of 14 x 7.5 watanabes, the caliper just touched the raised section just after the drop center...

[Konakid]

Honestly as long as you arent building something with 250rwkw and using it for circuit racing, just go the FC caliper/corona setup.

[jdm86gtz]

Nagisa Auto do a R32 4 pot brake kit down near the bottom of the page using a custom disc setup

http://www.nagisa-auto.com/products/toyota/index.html

[Kid Karola]

SS Works also offer a 4 pot Nissan caliper conversion kit, but the adapter is very offset compared to the FC ones to keep them behind the wheel without using spacers. 44GTE had one of these kits for sale a while ago, he may still have some pics.
Also the R32 twin piston rears are faily common conversion in Japan but aware of any off the shelf adapters.

[Simon-KE70]

getting the rears takes a bit more work since the handbrake is an internal drum. It can be done, and at the end of it forget fitting 14's and some 15's as clearance goes out the window. R32 rear brakes are actually larger in diameter compared to fronts.

[sundee]

Nagisa Auto do a R32 4 pot brake kit down near the bottom of the page using a custom disc setup

http://www.nagisa-auto.com/products/toyota/index.html

sweet thanks man ill check it out!


SS Works also offer a 4 pot Nissan caliper conversion kit, but the adapter is very offset compared to the FC ones to keep them behind the wheel without using spacers. 44GTE had one of these kits for sale a while ago, he may still have some pics.
Also the R32 twin piston rears are faily common conversion in Japan but aware of any off the shelf adapters.

i think today coz its still raining! ill try mocking them up on the front struts to see what where looking at.. ill have a search for their adapter to have a good look at how they did it. thanks for that.. i think this will be a top conversion once done...


getting the rears takes a bit more work since the handbrake is an internal drum. It can be done, and at the end of it forget fitting 14's and some 15's as clearance goes out the window. R32 rear brakes are actually larger in diameter compared to fronts.

yeah all the skylines except 31 have interal hub handbreak.. but im going to run a twin caliper setup on the rear one for foot and one hydraulic handbreak.

the rears are larger diameter rotor.. correct rears are twin piston w/ 296 x 18 mm rotor and fronts are 4 piston w/ 280 x 30 mm rotor, but although ther rears are taller the rear caliper does take up alot less room then the 4 pots up front so it kinda evens itself out.

thanks for your infor guys!! much appreciated. :thumbup:

[Simon-KE70]

you're preaching to the choir mate i have a 32 in the shed.

if you want to go swin caliper set up then just use a silvia disk.

[sundee]

you're preaching to the choir mate i have a 32 in the shed.

if you want to go swin caliper set up then just use a silvia disk.

silvia rear disc's are solid and are 258 x 9 mm as apposed to the 297 x 18mm vented R32 gtst rears... i guess it could be an option but i dont know if the pistons in the calipers would have the extra travel? mayb..

im going to stick with vented all around, i'll be mucking a bit with the front setup today..