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Matt
25th November 2012, 10:55 AM
Internal Differences

* Rods
* Pistons
* Head
* Chamber size / volume
* Inlet ports
* Oil pump
* Hydraulic Tensioner
* Timing belt
* Cam Gear Degrees
* Cams
* Blacktop is interference
* Flywheel - Blacktop has been lightened significantly. cut outs around the bolt holes.

External Differences
* Quad size
* Colour of cam covers
* AFM vs MAP
* ECU
* Wiring Loom
* Airbox
* Ignitor bracket - silvertop has starter relay mounted on it.

Exact Same Parts
* Rings 1.2mm top 1.5 2nd and 3mm oil ring
* Dizzy
* Coil
* Ignitor
* Block
* Crank
* Head bolts
* Injectors

Parts that can be shared

* Silvertop timing setup IF you use the silvertop oil pump
* Rods
* rings / bearings
* Cam covers

Matt
25th November 2012, 10:57 AM
Pics will come and i'll update it properly with CR ratios and that , but for now it is a placeholder...

Lurkin
25th November 2012, 03:49 PM
injectors are also different, blacktops having the superior spraying pattern.

Matt
25th November 2012, 04:02 PM
Who told you that???

The part numbers are exactly the same

23209-19015

FoldKing86
25th November 2012, 05:19 PM
Who told you that???

The part numbers are exactly the same

23209-19015

I agree Matt, i have had both in my hands and they are indeed identical on the outside.

If there was a difference it may of been right at the very end of the bt run or the very early st engines, but i am yet to see any part numbers to support this.

pen15
26th November 2012, 06:34 AM
rings and bearings can be used in both 1.2mm top 1.5 2nd and 3mm oil ring same as each other bearings are exactly the same aswell

Lurkin
26th November 2012, 03:17 PM
I was told it by a guy who has raced an ae101 for years.

Aware the fitment/ flow rate / part numbers etc are the same, nevertheless, he thought the spray pattern between them was different.

Matt
26th November 2012, 03:29 PM
Though allot of people use 1jz injectors...

pen15
26th November 2012, 08:52 PM
1j 2j 3sgte use all the same fitting injectors as the 20v spray pattern between black and silver is the same

Matt
26th November 2012, 09:01 PM
waiting to confirm that the crank pulley on the blacktop is 2mm thinner, and the timing belt drive is 2mm wider

pen15
27th November 2012, 06:41 AM
i think the crank pully could be different i use a JDM 16v rwd pully on my bt20v and i had to trim some off the back of the shaft to make it line up with all my other rwd stuff i didnt expect that when i done my conversion at all

Sam-Q
18th December 2012, 08:36 AM
On the blacktop the cam belt drive pulley is wider to suit the timing belt which is also wider and has a different profile of teeth.

As for other differences what did you guys want to know?