Speaker wiring

[Konakid]

Anyone know anything about stereo wiring?

Disconnected the front speakers, ran the wiring through to the boot, wired up the 6x9's, but only the left one will play even when connected to the right hand out put on the headunit! The headunit says the righthand side is palying i can tell because if i wind the balance to the left it goes silent.

Likewise, if its playing on the left speaker wires on the headunit, i wind the balance it to the right and it goes quiet.

This is using both the left and right speaker outputs on the headunit obviously.


Now, the wiring going from the speakers to the headunit is as follows:

Left:

Red/Grey
Purple/Green

Right:

Black/Grey
Purple/Green

I havent traced the wire under the dash to the front speaker i have only ripped out the front speakers and extended the wiring after the clip in attachment. I have made sure that the +ve and -ve are correct.

Thanks all.

[ke70dave]

hey mate

the +/- of the speakers wont make any difference to if it works or not, only the phase. so just keep them the same and youll be right.

youve basically got it there, if its a pioneer stereo those colours sound about right.....

the fronts were working fine before you pulled it out? if so..you tried swapping speakers over? not a dodgy speaker is it? (though usually you at least get some noise out of them....)

there isnt a whole lot to speakers, just pos and neg and off it goes... (usually)

[Konakid]

Almost %100 sure they worked, will swap them round and see if its a dodgy speaker, good idea.

[riceburner]

failing that id run new wiring rather than using the stock stuff too. that way u know it is all fresh

[sundee]

were the front speakers working before u disconnected them?

before u pull out the wiring here is a tip.. grab a 9 volt battery, hook up the negative to the neg and the touch the positive wire to the positive terminal.
if their is a connection and the driver hasnt packed it in then the cone will pulse each time u touch the active to the active terminal on the battery.
check inside the speaker and check if the wires from the terminals are connected to the spider (the round disc sitting on the back of the driver(aka big magnet)) between it and the cone - are connected.

then u could just do a continuity test on the wires to test the circuit.

is your headdeck 4 ch or 2 ch?
if its 4 ch make sure your fader is set to 0 (zero) and not faded to the rear or front (incase u used the wrong wires (front to rear)) - u already have the pan set to center so your sweet their..

if u do all the above u will find the problem.

have fun ;)

more than likley it will be a wiring issue... just please dont twist the wires together and leccy tape them.. if u want crakling speakers in a few months then thats the way to go.. solder then tape always.

[Dool]

check the earth, if using the old factory wiring, check that the -ve wire is not common.

[Cerby86]

are you sure you using the right wire combination. On all the head units i've wired the colours were green and green and black for one rear speaker. And purple and purple and black for the other. Then grey for one front and white for the other.
So that might be worth checking. Unless the colours your talking about are the ones from the car itself not the head unit cos then your probably right.

However if your using the standard speaker wiring and you have a pre 85 rolla then that is your problem. The stock system uses a common negative and there should be a warning about this somewhere in your head unit booklet that says don't do it or i will explode in your face!
Just run new wires the whole way and i bet it will fix it.
I didn't fully understand your post have you interchanged the speakers? Cos maybe one of them is just fooked

[sundee]

check the earth, if using the old factory wiring, check that the -ve wire is not common.


are you sure you using the right wire combination. On all the head units i've wired the colours were green and green and black for one rear speaker. And purple and purple and black for the other. Then grey for one front and white for the other.
So that might be worth checking. Unless the colours your talking about are the ones from the car itself not the head unit cos then your probably right.

However if your using the standard speaker wiring and you have a pre 85 rolla then that is your problem. The stock system uses a common negative and there should be a warning about this somewhere in your head unit booklet that says don't do it or i will explode in your face!
Just run new wires the whole way and i bet it will fix it.
I didn't fully understand your post have you interchanged the speakers? Cos maybe one of them is just fooked

correct me if im wrong, but that should bridge the intetnal amps?

u can easily test that by simple continuity test.. grab your 2 neg wires at the rear of the head deck and put the tester on them.. will tell u if they are anyway linked.. the stock wires are pretty thin and an upgrade will get u some better audio quality.

[Konakid]

Got it sorted, cheers.

Was a faulty wire in the 6x9 box that goes from the back of the box to the speaker.

Cut the ends off, soldered them back on and it works perfectly, weird.

[sundee]

hmm solder thats what i like to hear! ;)

[yoshimitsu9]

correct me if im wrong, but that should bridge the intetnal amps?

u can easily test that by simple continuity test.. grab your 2 neg wires at the rear of the head deck and put the tester on them.. will tell u if they are anyway linked.. the stock wires are pretty thin and an upgrade will get u some better audio quality.

xeleventybillion!

imo thats the first thing that should be done

what 4" speakers are people using? im using some crappy jvc $70 ones from jb hi fi and they really do lack in the loudness department even connect to a 50w rms amp. id use my nice boschman 6.5" mids but dont wanna hack up the nice jdm door card

[sundee]

xeleventybillion!

imo thats the first thing that should be done

what 4" speakers are people using? im using some crappy jvc $70 ones from jb hi fi and they really do lack in the loudness department even connect to a 50w rms amp. id use my nice boschman 6.5" mids but dont wanna hack up the nice jdm door card


every single speaker sounds different!. go down your local audio shop get your favourite CD/song.. please no MP3 rubbish.. u want full bandwith audio from a "real" CD.. put it in and listen to it and start pressing the buttons that switch to different speakers.. and choose the ones u like the sound of.

[yoshimitsu9]

yeh i might have to do that, it just seems that there is a lack of decent wattage 4" speakers around, i know that there are models in existence that are around the 50w rms range but your main stream car audio sellers dont stock them (jb, strathfield etc). i have to car audio specialist type places near my place and the price they charge, even for regular brands (pioneer, alpine, jvc etc) is just fucking rediculous. so getting above average speakers at a reasonable price is near on impossible

[sundee]

yeh i might have to do that, it just seems that there is a lack of decent wattage 4" speakers around, i know that there are models in existence that are around the 50w rms range but your main stream car audio sellers dont stock them (jb, strathfield etc). i have to car audio specialist type places near my place and the price they charge, even for regular brands (pioneer, alpine, jvc etc) is just fucking rediculous. so getting above average speakers at a reasonable price is near on impossible

i would say go a known brand , but in everything, u need to listen to them, it could look like mud but sound like gold...

and BTW the purpose of a 4" is not to be blistering loud.. it more meant for fill.. if u want loud u need an amp.. your head deck hasnt got the grunt to really make those drivers move.
get a cheap 4ch or 6ch amp and rig it up.. then it will pump :thumbup:

[yoshimitsu9]

ive got a pioneer 4x50w rms pioneer amp (generally cant go wrong with pioneer imo) which is hooked up to the 4" speakers (using 2 channels, not bridged) that is high passed and bass turned right down on the head unit as i have a respone 2x150w rms amp with bass adjuster knob for the sub. and seriously these jvc speakers suck balls volume wise, ive also had similarly priced pioneer speakers in the past and they werent a hell of a lot better.

the jvcs only put out like 25w rms any way so its not like their build to pump out massive volume compared to a 6" speaker at say 50-60w rms

[sundee]

i rate the sound of pioneer gear.. eg a mate had this 4 k rockford system in his car.. was homo as.. and it sounded tinny and all valleyed out... no good factory eq of speckers.. imo
i wouldnt turn the bass right down on the head deck.. just use the HPF on the amp.. its prolly set with a knee at 100 - 150 Hz so using the bass roll off in the head unit its doing much.

have u tried using the other 2 ch in the amp to see if it makes a diff.. if yur using an amp and all i would get rid of that old wiring for sure!!

it will make alot of difference... and go from their..

[dave2221]

also a good head unit will do the world of good.

my old car had 6" splits up front (kenwood)

6" splits rear doors and 2x 12" kicker CVR subs (i know ey)

when the kenwood 25th anniverary deck came out i got that and was gong to amp the 6" all round
but having a "competition deck" gave me more adjustablility in the frequencies of teh speakers and i never needed to.

so in my opinion, without a good head unit your wasting money trying to get excellent sound out of the speakres.

[Konakid]

I just got some kenwood headunit, simple thing and some clarion 6x9's. Sounds ok i guess.

[sundee]

also a good head unit will do the world of good.

my old car had 6" splits up front (kenwood)

6" splits rear doors and 2x 12" kicker CVR subs (i know ey)

when the kenwood 25th anniverary deck came out i got that and was gong to amp the 6" all round
but having a "competition deck" gave me more adjustablility in the frequencies of teh speakers and i never needed to.

so in my opinion, without a good head unit your wasting money trying to get excellent sound out of the speakres.

agree and disagree.. a good head unit will make alot of difference. but also upgrading your other components in the system even down to wiring will still improve your audio quality.