Rob's KE70

[RobertoX]

So 2 years ago I bought a KE70 for a daily runabout to use while my car was being shipped to aus. (see here: http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php/10189-%E7%AC%AC%EF%BC%91%E8%B5%A4%E6%B1%A0%E3%81%AE%E5%8 5%AB%E5%85%AD )

The KE was bog standard with 185.000 km on the clock.
the 5k was fairly gutless and the trans was 3 speed auto which just didn't help at all.

So i decided to change to 4age, T50, add an LSD and fix up the suspension and brakes. Here are some pics of how I did it, I tried to keep it pretty standard looking on the outside. Also I didnt want to have too harsh a ride or be too loud because it is meant as a daily. Basically I was going for 'sleeper'




the ke when i first bought it.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509064.jpg

Someone smashed my wing mirror... grr
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509065.jpg

Removing the 5k
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509066.jpg

Hyundai excel radiator went in, I used the orginal Hyundai mounts both top and bottom. Also had to cut the body around where the ke radiator mounts because it interfered with the excel radiator.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509067.jpg

AE82 oil cooler
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509068.jpg

AE86 washer bottle required a mount to be made for the rear bolt hole but basically fits in the same place as on the 86
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509069.jpg

Used a VN commie airbox and relocated the ke radiator overflow bottle.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509070.jpg


To be replaced with this.
Quite proud of the fact that i pulled this motor from a self serve wrecker, complete with loom and computer for $250
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509071.jpg

This is the cooling system i set up using an ae82 external thermostat. Thermo mounts off a bracket connecting to the engine mount.
Also I bent and re-drilled the fwd manifold supprt rod to suit the ae86 inlet manifold.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509072.jpg

Fuel system
Surge tank in boot
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509073.jpg


Lines to surge tank, I bent up some bundy tube myself and then took it to a brake place to put some flares.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509074.jpg


Making some holes for the AE71 manual pedal box that also came from the wrecker...
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509075.jpg


you need to widen the hole for the shifter if you want to go from AT to MT
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509076.jpg


clutch line with banjo fitting. I used an ae86 line and bent it around slightly to suit.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509077.jpg


battery in the boot with 100A breaker (about $50 from jaycar if i remember correctly) 100A is actually a bit low but i only tripped it once when i was cranking the engine for ages trying to diagnose a wiring problem.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509078.jpg

Not a ppretty photo.
what i did was strip the ae82 harness and install it to the engine as required. i also took the chance to remove any unused wires. Some lengthening and re-routing was required but it wasnt too bad.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509079.jpg

Computer mounted here. I used the ae82 bracket and just cut it up and bent it around to fit this position.
Note that you can't put it here if you run aircon as the condenser interferes tith the comp.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509080.jpg



suspension, front coilovers.
cut & shut ra40 struts. removed about 40mm in length of the strut
st185 KYB adjustable inserts 20mm spacer was required
standard upper supports used
sleeve and spring support are t3 but i'm not too sure about the quality of the aluminium sleeve. Might switch to a steel one in the future.
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509081.jpg

How it sits now on 14" rays meshies, tyres are 185/65R14
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509082.jpg


Summary

Engine: Std AE84 4AGE

Trans: T50
short shifter
Exedy HD clutch

Sus: FR coilovers 4kg/mm, kyb adjustable shocks
TRD springs 5kg/mm
RR KYB agx
FR xt130 control arms
ae86 PS steering knuckles

Diff: t18 housing
ae86 trd 2 way
4.3 (std AE86)

Other stuff:
AE86 jdm steerer
surge tank
battery in boot
excel radiator
AE82 oil cooler

[RobertoX]

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This is the car on a truck going into storage for the next 2 years or so. I moved back to Japan this week... time to get something more exciting :D
http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/4/6/509088.jpg

[AJPS]

good car

[Jdm-Mcc]

would buy, tidy build

[ghostintheshell95']

This is the coolest ke70 I've seen. Best interior, whole car's simple and on point.

[RobertoX]

Thanks guys, I was trying to make a clean daily that still kept the feeling of the KE. Thats why I kept the stock seats and clock dash etc.
The 4ag pulls really well, especially since i changed to the 4.3 ring. Rips pretty good skids with the lsd and manages to get some surprised faces as it looks fairly standard from the outside.

[RobertoX]

When i get back to aus the first thing i'll do is ditch the RA40 brakes, probably for some MA61 units that i have waiting. The RA40 ones are pwerful enough for the street but the feeling through the pedal is rubbish. I think it's because of the way the caliper slides in the bracket, it doesnt use slider pins like more recent calipers, it uses a bushing in the bracket that I think would add a lot of friction.

[declan]

ship it to japan.

[Jakroyds]

This thing is super clean! Motivated to get mine to a similar level..

[joeschmo_57]

What are you getting in Japan?

Bring back a carina?

[ghostintheshell95']

kp61 ; ) do it

[RobertoX]

Maybe another 86 and have another crack at racing in class N1 (see my other thread)
I need a more dedicated race car though, my last one was still too much of a compromise for street use...
KP61 is also cool but still pretty rare over here. Don't worry, when I get another car there will be a more detailed build thread.

[RobertoX]

Deposit put down on an 86 levin coupe.
Basically a dedicated track car which i'll put a bit of extra work into.
Aim will be to be competitive in the N1 class. New thread to come soon...

[AJPS]

Deposit put down on an 86 levin coupe.
Basically a dedicated track car which i'll put a bit of extra work into.
Aim will be to be competitive in the N1 class. New thread to come soon...

how much japanese do you speak

also what are the n1 class rules

[RobertoX]

I speak a reasonable amount but am definitely no expert. I have to work in japanese every day though.

N1 is basically set up to have a pretty level playing field and not be too expensive.

Engine: std cams and inlet manifold, including throttle body. Must be bigport. The motor i am building is getting 1mm os pistons, some lightening and balancing. Also decked block and thin HG.

Tyres: control tyre varies each year depending on sponsor. This year it is Dunlop direzza in 14 or 15 inch

Suspension: no lca change, all body mount points have to be std. Coilovers and adjustable rear arms are ok.

Brakes: std vented rotors and discs. Slotted or drilled is ok and high temppads are ok.

Body: shell panels have to be std but hood, trunk and fender change is ok. My car is fully stitch welded.

[AJPS]

Sounds cool. Stock ecu I guess?

[RobertoX]

Yeah sorry, forgot about that one, stock ecu only. But most guys stuff around with the sensors by putting resistors in various places to get it to run a bit richer.
Pretty nasty way of tuning but you can get a touch more power and more importantly keep the temps down.

[slide86]

Sounds like fun, id really like to get into something like that.......but Australia :(

[AJPS]

Yeah sorry, forgot about that one, stock ecu only. But most guys stuff around with the sensors by putting resistors in various places to get it to run a bit richer.
Pretty nasty way of tuning but you can get a touch more power and more importantly keep the temps down.

a well respected tuner in sa swears by diode and resistor tuning

but he is very very old school and his knowledge was learned before you could buy tunable ecus

[RobertoX]

Hey I started a new thread, check it out if you're interested:


http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/forums/showthread.php/77906-%E7%AC%AC%EF%BC%92%E8%B5%A4%E6%B1%A0%E3%81%AE%E5%8 5%AB%E5%85%AD?p=928596#post928596

[RobertoX]

I haven't really posted in a while, I got back from Japan after a 2 year stint, the KE was in a storage location all that time. When the tow guy dropped it off to me he said he was amazed that it started first time because most new cars don't.
I just put through a fresh tank of fuel, oil and coolant change and all was well to keep driving the as a daily.
This car is just so fun to drive it seriously just brings a big grin to my face every time I drive it.

But now the time has come to sell it though as I am going overseas for work again... so I need to get a RWC so I took it to a guy I know to give it a quick look over, he reckons all I need is the heater to be hooked up. We'll see what happens when I take it in for the full RWC but should be ok.

When I first put in the 4AGE, to get it running I just ran a bypass circuit for the heater, I didn't have a tap or any plumbing.
Off to center rd wrecker to get some lengths of hose and a tap. I found the perfect tap for the KE70 on an AW11, in case anybody is doing similar. The difficult thing is to find one that will fit where the original KE one sits and directs the hoses from the back of the 4AGE in the right direction.
The AW11 tap has a bottom inlet and a 90degree bend directing the flow to the passenger side direction of the engine bay (most other 90's model vehicles have one that directs in the opposite direction which sends the routing towards the brake booster) from 2000's onwards there seems to no tap at all, probably been integrated into the heater unit.

Pretty much looks like it is supposed to be there.
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And some photos just because it's a nice day
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[dove grey 64]

glad to see this running, last time i saw you rob you were building this up.
not sure who is doing your rwc but the car would need to be engineered with that motor, thank vicroads for such stupidity.
even people with adm 86's get defected for running 4ages these days

[RobertoX]

Hey! Did you ever manage to find a diff and the other stuff you needed for your car?

Had it inspected by VicRoads and they were ok with it. The guidelines say that if the same engine was offered as an option in that vehicle then it is fine to change it over provided that the same brakes/suspension are also installed and the engine is not modified to produce 20% more power. They specifically state that no engineers cert is required. This only applies for vehicles sold in Australia.
So guys running 4AGE's in ADM sprinters should be ok as long as the vented rotors are fitted, especially since the 4AGE 86 was homologated in Australia.

Just because the police issue a defect does not mean that the car is not legal, sometimes they just do because they think they can. I was issued an EPA notice and defect for my last 86 for noise. Just had it noise tested and it was under so it was taken off with no modification required.

The AE71 has a 4A and runs the same brakes/ suspension etc as the KE70... the 4AGE is simply a twincam, EFI variant of the 4AC in the AE71... bit of a stretch? lol
I will be keeping the paperwork showing this engine number in the glovebox at all times just in case!

As far as RWC goes, as long as the engine number is the same as the one registered with Vic roads and they can tick all of the road worthy items off the list then they said they are fine with it, somebody else signed off on the engine number so not their responsibility.