THE SR20 vs 4AGE ARGUMENT/discusion FOR THE LOVERS AND HATERS

[FAST EDDIE]

Well after this topic was bought up recently i thought it would be a better place to put it in here.

So after hearing i have no idea sayin 4ages will run on junk oil (which we have all proved they will) and SR20's need good quality oil or they will decemate bearings and so forth i feel fair pissed.

I have run 3 4age's in turbo form and blown the shit out of them and am now running sr20s in my drift cars with brilliant sucess i think its fair to say that i have proven the quality of sr20 engines vs 4age's. These are in limiter bashing situations continuosly.

On the other hand i have had a 4agte in my street car dumping out a measly 130kw that would run all day every day which i ahve sold and am now changing for a 20v, so i do have a little respect for 4a's but not in comparison for bang for buck SR20det's.

Let the hating begin!

[Frak]

I like both but think they should stay in a chassis by the same manufacturer....just me!

[DRFTR86]

well i dont have an sr20, but i have a ca18det, and did have a worked n/a 4age, when the boost bug hit me, i didnt see any point in having a turbo 1.6 when (although nissan) a turbo 1.8 and a turbo 2.0 were available, and are only about 1 hours work extra to shoe horn in.

there are plenty of aftermarket parts available for both nissans and toyotas, but when at a track day, you would say about 98% of cars are nissans, and lets be honest, the perform very well.

treat any engine shit and it will blow up on you, alot of people will say sr20s spin bearings as eddie mentioned, but it can happen to a 4age, beau spun his bearings in the 4agte, and now hes running a sr20

although i have ca18det, ive seen the light, turbo nissans for the win, i can safely say i will never go back to a 4age, unless someone shouts me a hasslegreen 20v

i daily a turbo nissan and it has never given me troubles.

+1 for nissan

[lolwat]

they are both the best 4 bangers ever made they are both fucking awesome, what more is there to argue about

tbh if i could lift my bonnet(not that i own one yet) and see RB26, onyl if i had the time and money and OOyea A CAR!)

[blinded]

The way I see it is this:


4ag[t/z]e for easy fitting.

Sr20 for easy power.



If you have the time, fabrication skills, and money to do an SR conversion, it is IMO the way to go.

But, for those of us who can't do said conversion due to lack of skills, time or generally money, a 4A would be the easiest way.



I guess it also depends on how serious your driving is. For you Eddy, the SR makes sense due to the fact you do actually drive your car at its limits all the time. But for people who are not at that level, a basic 4agte setup would possibly be the best route.




But yeah, it is very much each to their own.



Edit: For me, I'd rather lift my bonnet to see a 4agte, but hell I would still settle with either Nissan engine.

[Chaos Theory]

lol think you are referring to me, and i called you retarded for calling toyota engines junk. not your comment about oils or sr20s.

EDIT: I do love your car, and you drive it well.

however i think the fact that a 4age will run on crap oil is a testament to its quality.

[10000rpm]

After having spent too much money and time building a tough N/A 4age, I admit my money could have been better spent on a turbo motor...BUT...

Anyone who has experienced the sound and power deliverery/response of a worked 4age will admit there is no substitute...

Now I have grown up my next project is a GZ10 soarer with 1jz, all parts are in the shed....just need to find the time..., cheap power in a shell with the wheelbase to handle it...

Nissans are not my cup of tea, too easy and sound horrible...

[ke_70]

sr20 > 4age
the way i see it is sr's are build to handle ~150kw and are designed to run a turbo
4a's are build to handle ~90kw and designed to run na
+ sr's are newer (i think)

and to make a 4age as tuff as an sr it has to be fairly modified
therefore resulting in more engine stress

i base non of this on fact lol just what seems logical to me

[70XIN]

I have way more faith in a 4AGTE than an SR .. and i bought a '99 S15

SR can make power awesomely easily though, so that's a plus. I guess they're still very reliable motors *as long as they have been well maintained and tuned for the duration of their life*



And fast eddie, i think you just had very poor luck with your 4A's. Either your tuner or your engine builder needs a clue.

[rthy]

4age is awesome if u want to keep it "stock" looking