your a tripper
these are the exact same design as BC and a few other brands. dont go fooling yourself, it takes one engineer to design these things and then a few people to turn that design into a coilver setup. so brand to brand difference wont come down to the idea, or the design, but to the quality of the build, and the shocks that are used.
the BC stuff is mono-tube but not inverted, so the adjustments are at the top within reach. might i ask those who are preeching about inverted shocks, why they think they are so good... (i know they are better in some circumstances, just asking peoples opinions).
i have run HSD s13 front end and i couldnt fault them in the short time i used them, perhaps the lack of adjustment (only 12 point). those 'stance' coilovers even appear to have the same cambertop design as BC (or BC have the same as them). the custom compact sleeve kit however, i wasnt too enthusiastic about, didnt fit snugly over the strut tube and the supplied spring was too short.
i can only vouch for what i have used myself, that being the s13 front HSD ** coilovers and the AE86 BC V1 coilovers, both were faultless in the times i used/assembled them. GREDDY has the history and the recognition behind them so they will continue to sell, and cheaper brands will always be there to pick up those looking for a cheap setup/willing to give things a try.
-dan
gunner:
ALL DRIFT MODIFICATIONSYou're a fucking idiot, and I am ashamed that you are part of this community. Sure there isn't many tracks, but praticing on the street isn't the alternative.
Grow the fuck up you little JDM whore
for all your drift modification needs
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BC also come inverted aswell for 86... Juat can't find any info ATM... 86 isn't even listed on there American website.. LOL
how so?
BC are not american, they are taiwanese. the V1, BR, ER are not inverted, they make maybe 1/2 dozen different coilover types, but im not sure on the specs of all of them.
inverted mono tube is not stiffer, is not stronger, and doesnt 'feel' different. the advantage of the inverted dampner is that the seals are self lubricating. for some applications this is a great advantage, for others it make no difference, and for some its even a disadvantage.
-dan
gunner:
ALL DRIFT MODIFICATIONSYou're a fucking idiot, and I am ashamed that you are part of this community. Sure there isn't many tracks, but praticing on the street isn't the alternative.
Grow the fuck up you little JDM whore
for all your drift modification needs
I know they're not american.. I was just looking on the american website is all..
And yes they DO make inverted models...
And I'm sure I've seen inverted 86 ones for sale some where.
would a bilstien shock in a custom welded on sleeve coilover kit be better than these anyway? what are the advantages of a kit like this anyway? i know rears would be nice but im talking in terms of front set-up
i honestly wouldnt bother... in the end its your call.. i would and have, built up my own, buy a good insert and u will never have any issues. yeah they might cost u a bit more but in the end u have a great reliable setup.
say u spend - 500 on inserts (front)
300 on colilover kit - few to choose from.
then camber plates - i can supply for 255 delivered.
total - 1055
just a comparison for you....
if u just want it for ride height and dont care how its going to drive or how long its going to last then get the china crap.. it is cheap after all, but cheap for a reason.
dont really know how fair that comment is sundee...
you start off by listing how cheaply a "good" homemade setup can be, then finish with "cheap for a reason" in regards to china stuff... ( realised you werent pointing out how "cheap" they can be built )
lots of comments from people who have had nothing but good experiances with hsd would give strong weight to the fact the product is above the average "china" quality.
HSD has been used in many top flight drift and grip cars around the world, but very popularly in the uk under the driftworks brand.
Also, add in a rear setup for costings and your not far off the hsd price, but with a lot of convinience for those who dont have the ability to knock these things together, or the talent to choose componantry that will work well together ...
not bitchingor having a go, just sayin
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Last edited by fantapants; 24th December 2009 at 10:20 PM. Reason: need to pay more attention to reading :)
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Main advantage of upside down shocks is unsprung weight.