diff pinion angles??

[blair]

Smart ass Reply?
How about a real fucking world reply, as that is exaclty what i will be doing when/if i eventually go adjustable 4 link.

Want a starting point? start at exactly the same as what the stock arms were. and decide for yourself which way to try adjusting first. like you said yourself, theres contradictory information out there everywhere, so its inevitably up to you to find what suits.... you!

Hours to adjust a 4link? You track your car yeh? it takes all of 5minutes to adjust it in between runs. you'd easily get a few runs and adjusts done in an hour, which should be enough to get a fair idea of where is best for... you!


Just re-read your initial post, and fair enough its a bit more of a request for general information than i first thought, but even still... nothing/no-one is going to be able to set up your diff better than you can personally by actually driving the car!

[Sam-Q]

there is no stock sprinter that hasn't got sagged suspension so even that's not a real good starting point.

Look blair I see where your coming from and theres a place for the theoretical and a place for just trying it out. The best pinion angle of the diff is pretty fairly universally accepted, and I can't see how you would find this out by trial and error.

Also why don't you calm down and show constructive answers instead of insults. We are all here for the same reason and no-one provoked you initially.

[H8CHIR6KU]

you obviously have no idea on how track days are run here in wa. there is no way you would have enough time to fuck around with adjusting shit after every run when your there drifting.

your initial post was in no way helpful at all. no shit sherlock you need to adjust it to find what suits you! where do you start? whats the theory on how it affects your car? what should i expect when i do this or that? is there wrong ways to do it? what else can it effect?

this is all stuff that you should be looking out for when trying to mess around with something. if i have this information before i proceed trying to adjust shit up then i will no doubt gain my outcome sooner and easier.

i am no expert on the matter and all i wanted was some more information before i try and mess with it. but when you get replies of: try it yourself and see what you like. is not the answer to my question, and no way helpful. i know i need to try it myself and see what i like but im not one to jump in feet first. i want more info on the subject so that when i do jump in i know what to expect and what to do

thats all i have to say. now lets get back to the topic....

[assassin10000]

Since your not building a drag car, pinion angle has little to no effect on drifting.

The 'best' starting point is to have the pinion angle parallel to the engine/trans angle. IE if the engine/trans is 4 deg nose up, the pinion should be 4 deg nose up. If you have sloppy bushings, you can make the pinion 2-3 degress nose up so under load it becomes 4 degrees nose up. The stiffer your suspension, the closer to parallel you should be.

Setting pinion angle is about eliminating driveline vibration & ensuring u-joint longevity.

There's some info in these length's so I don't have to regurgitate everything:



Andrew

[Sam-Q]

well said, thats pretty much where I was aiming at but much better than what I could explain it

[H8CHIR6KU]

i have read thru alot of your posts and articles previous to my original post. and its good to see that a question like this was asked esp as alot of your research states that the diff nose should be angled up where as everyone says angle it down.

this is why i asked this question cause it seems that while most people agree on how much angle there seems to be differing opnions on wether to angle it up or down

[Sam-Q]

yeah people say down when they mean down in proportion to the tail-shaft line.

[Frak]

One of the smartest things I've read on here re pinion angle. Andrew you obviously 'get it'.

edit: just read Sam's comment as well

as for another comment....f*ck....I'm speechless

[Sam-Q]

you know what guys I think we are all reading too much into this subject. I say 4 degrees or whatever it's meant to be is crap all. The 4x4 guys run what looks like about 30 degrees all the time off the transfer case to the diffs.

So I say put the car on the ground and adjust the diff angle to it looks about straight and then let it be.

[assassin10000]

4x4's have a CV/Double Cardan at the front and just point the diff at the t-case. They can get away with it. (Especially if used for low speed/rpms)


If you have a 1-piece in your AE/KE/TE/ect you'll definately want to set your pinion angle. Driveline vibrations suck... and having a driveshaft come through the floor board or pole-vaulting your car is not fun either.

Andrew