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Thread: 3SGE BEAMS Celica ST184 approx 200hp P Plate Legal

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    Default 3SGE BEAMS Celica ST184 approx 200hp P Plate Legal

    Extremely Rare 3SGE BEAMS Redtop

    Toyota Celica ST184
    Manual
    Black
    approx 140xxx kms on engine
    approx 220xxx kms on body
    (most things replaced or upgraded)

    Engine
    3SGE Beams Redtop VVTI 4cylinder 2.0 Litre Fuel injected (135xxxkms)
    (Puts out 200hp and is N/A)

    Clutch & Gearbox
    Heavy duty Clutch, Stock Manual 5spd Celica Gearbox

    Suspension
    Sustec Fully Adjustable Coilovers

    Exhaust
    Stock, twin tip muffler

    Wheels
    now 17" ROH

    Exterior
    Full Veilside Body Kit

    Interior
    Mainly stock
    Slightly changed colour interior

    I.C.E
    Full Pioneer System
    Pioneer head unit USB capable
    6.5” speakers with splits in front
    6” speakers in rear
    Both sets run by 2 channel amps


    Great car for P plater
    P plate legal and puts out approx 200hp
    whole car re painted less than 6 months ago
    Has been serviced in last 7500kms
    Have had both cv and driveshafts replaced
    Wheel Bearings have been replaced
    Radiator has been replaced

    Condition: Good
    Price: $7000 ONO (will do cheaper minus rego, stereo etc) or swaps for something rwd and cash my way (no commos or falcons)
    Location: Brisbane Northside QLD
    Contact: PM or




    Having trouble posting pics, will get some on asap
    Last edited by joey_jones1213; 22nd September 2010 at 09:39 PM.

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    where'd you get the enigne? i want one!

    good luck with sale
    Cheers, plohl

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    got the engine and conversion done by rollin imports at burleigh,
    yeah they go hard, really good for N/A


    cheers

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    I'm pretty sure that it is not a P-Plater legal car mate. I just did a bit of research and it turns out you will need to have it mod-plated in QLD or engineered in NSW. If you do either of those things it is illegal for a P-Plater to drive it.

    "Prohibited vehicles
    The prohibited vehicle condition restricts provisional (P1 and P2) drivers from driving certain high performance vehicles. The condition applies to provisional licences issued on or after 11 July 2005. The scheme aims to prohibit young driver access to vehicles that are overrepresented in young driver crashes.

    Prohibited vehicles are those with:
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    "High-powered (performance) vehicle restriction
    High powered (performance) vehicle restrictions apply for the duration of and licence periods for licence holders under the age of 25 years.
    These restrictions also apply to probationary licence holders who return from a to a P1 or P2 probationary licence, where at the time of the offence they were under 25 years of age. These limits apply for the duration of the probationary period regardless of age.

    High powered (performance) vehicles include those with:
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    "you just about always have to change the ECU you should get one with the new engine, unless your buying it from some place dodgey, warning: moving to a 3sge will require mod plate as the car was never released here in aus with that engine, and only a rev 2 3sge from a ST182 will bolt right up and ECU will plug into the cars wiring, ST202 will need a bit of work, and beams will need alot of work."

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    If you can show me how it is P-plate legal I would really like to know, as I have had to comply with this ridiculous rule myself.

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    Didnt need an engineers certificate
    as it was going from 2.2 litre down to 2.0 so capacity wasnt being increased. was done by rollin imports and they said if i took it to mechs to get a cert there wouldnt be anything they would have to cert, someone did the same conversion into a camry and they didnt need a eng cert either.
    Ive had the car for around a year with the engine done and have also had it re-registered in my name and no issues what so ever.

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    Is the 3SGE engine number on the car registration papers?

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    Its been all changed over and no issues

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    The engine number on the registration papers would have to have changed from 5S******* to 3S********... I can't understand how QLD Transport would do that for you without getting it mod-plated first.

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    if you looked at the car its registered in NSW so must be different in QLD or something.
    But i didnt need an eng cert and the 3sge is a toyota engine, and I havnt had any trouble with it so far.

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    You need to check the engine number on the the 3SGE engine (3S********) and check that it is the same number that is on the registration papers of the vehicle. If the engine number doesn't line up with what is on the registration papers, then the vehicle isn't legal to drive on the road.

    When you swap an engine in NSW you have two options:

    Adjustment of Records - Take your car to a certified Blue-Slip station and they will read the new engine number and sign a form that you then take to the RTA to update. This occurs with the Sprinters when upgrading from 4A-C to 4A-GE or what I have done when upgrading my Corona from 18R-C to 18R-G. It only works if the first characters (4A or 18R) line up with the factory engine you took out.

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    Engineering Certificate - You get your car engineered. This is usually the case when the new engine number doesn't line up with the old one - like in your case 5S******** to 3S*********.

    I understand that you are going from a 2.2L to a 2.0L but the engine number needs to be updated even if you a switching from your 2.2L 5S-FE to another 5S-FE - THE ENGINE NUMBER MUST BE UPDATED.

    I doubt that any Blue-Slip station will tick off anything anything but another 5S******** in your car.

    You MUST do one of the above options or the car isn't legally registered and if you are involved in an accident your car will not be covered because you are breaking the rules of registration by not having the engine in your car that is on the registration papers.

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