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    CAN ANYONE TELL ME IN PSI, WHAT I WOULD GET IF I COMPRESSION TEST A STANDARD BLACKTOP 20V ENGINE. PLEASE

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    170psi is just my guess. Anything below 150psi would be poor.

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    for a blacktop thats meant to be in decent condition i would think more along the lines of 190-180psi with 5-8psi lee-way between each cylinder, anything less then its not a real healthy motor.

    After first test put 20-30mls of engine oil down each cylinder then retest, if new test numbers or more then 5% higher then the first test then rings are pretty worn.

    Post up your results for all to see.
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    yeah my 4k has 150 all round, so id like to think that a blacktop 20V would have a little more compression than that, so yeah 180-190 sounds pretty reasonable
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    190psi across all 4, ive had 2 blacktops in my possesion (still have one that i might drop into the car soon if all goes well) and both made 190psi on all pistons..

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    i think piston ring are gonnne. im only getting 175 each cylinder. thanks for your help u guys

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    it could be valve stem seals ? did you try putting oil down the plug holes then doing compression test, thats the best way to check if rings are letting pressure by is it not ?

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    i tried that, putting oil in the plug hole and compression test it and it gave me a very high reading like around 230. what does that mean? does that mean still i have to recon my bottom end or the head needs a recon?

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    Most normal cars driving on the road compression test at 150psi. A 4A-GE with 175psi on all 4 is going to apear to be healthy and will drive very well, and probably have at least 90% of its factory power. But if its ment to have more, then you will need new rings to get 100% of the factory power.

    From the AE111 4A-GE manual (blacktop 20 valve):
    Compression: 193psi or more
    Minimum compression: 156psi
    Difference: 14psi or less

    So your engine is within spec and ok. I'm sure it goes fine. To rebuild or not is your choice.

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    It means the oil is filling in any caps between the rings and block. Dont stress on it thou, 99.9% of cars with more then 40,000kms will do the same thing (higher compression with oil in cylinders).

    Although i would say 175psi is a little low for a blacktop, but if you had the funds, then rebuild, if your sorta low on cash, you could wait a while.

    And if the valves stem where worn i think there would be alot of smoke on start up. But unless it fills the garage i wouldnt worry about it.
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