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    sam, brilliant strut brace, im in the proses of making my own....and that there is just a work of art!

    you know you can buy those hole puncher things, use them for gussets in roll cages and stuff...nifty bit of gear, they come in HEAPS of sizes...can make a pissweak bit of steel into something strong...

    mind if i copy that brace design btw?

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    Excellent work Sam, looks like it is coming together just how you want it.

    I still cant believe that you managed to get that front brace so light!

    Looking forward to the insane exhaust build up

    Cheers,

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    mc68: I can buy a punch!? would you happen to know where? I really dont mind that much that I had to make my own because although it took a while it was an interesting project. I think if I had to make another I could do a much better job and it wouldn't take so long. Your right about it making something weak into something strong, my starting peice of metal with the 13mm holes drilled into it had next to no strength at all and then it was really rigid when I was finished. Its funny to think puched holes take material away from a peice of metal and it makes the rigidity go through the roof, I love it. I really think lightening holes are underutilised in parts. As for copying my design; go for it, a bit of credit would be nice of you ever do make it but I am not too bothered either way. Just send me a picture when your finished ok?


    Justin: I wasnt too sure what to expect when I built it but I am glad it worked out well, and I still do plan on modifying it to make it into a tri-brace, but thats well down the road. I might start some of my exhaust building up soon with my extractors. I bought some vacume cleaner style plastic flexable tubing on the weekend that I will use to simulate the shape of my extractors. What I am thinking of doing is cutting the flex pipe into equal lengths, tack welding some 40mm peices of pipe on my exhaust flange, clamping the flange to the head, clamping the flex tubing onto the 40mm tabs, aligning how I want the pipes to sit and then cable tie the flex tubes together. So what I should end up with is a temporary plastic refrence for how I want my extractor primaries to run. If i get a chance I will work on it soon. This should give me an easy opertunity to change the layout of the pipes and see how it will sit. Because even though I must of done about 50 drawings on how I might run my pipes othing beats the real thing.
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    Im about to go and make a big order of Cromo today man, ill let you know how cheap i get it down to. If you want me to supply you with the stuff i buy we can work something out, hopefully i can get it cheap enough!

    Can you email me those pics of the fender braces you had Sam? Pretty interested in looking at making something similar for the business. Pretty confident i can better there design, plus i will employ my usual light and strong metals to make a nice end product

    As always you astound me with how you find mundane objects to use in your various modifying endeavours! I wouldnt of thought of using flex tube to dummy up your extractors, its a good idea to make up a template out of something that you dont have to fabricate. Cant wait to see how you go with the expanding chamber bits though, that will be very exciting.

    Talk soon Sam.

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    sorry Justin I have been away from home, heres that pic:



    it was taken from the "my accoustic" website, interesting guy. Heres the link for the site:





    Good to hear on getting some cro-mo, I recomend 1.25 x 0.35 (32x0.9mm) for the fender braces. I also think that if you do make them use upgraded bolts. There is however some debate going round though as to the advantages on them, I have a good link if you want it.

    With the vacume cleaner hose I once again cant take credit I saw it on a website called burns stainless. One other update is I managed to get a stack of free stainless bends today so it looks like I will very likely use stainless primary piping afterall.
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    ill take a pic of the ones i use at work, and ask my boss where its from, they look pretty old...but im sure they are still available...

    and yes, all the credit will go your way, but mine wont be as good, or as pretty (i cant tig so save my life!)

    ill let you know tommorow bout those punches

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    not to shoot you down, but i would say the ports you grinded out were probably for idle. flow is important for idle and the reason your "race car" mate probably said go for it? race cars are generally at full throttle and rarely see low RPM, and the weld cracking? shit weld, you dont need a brace. example? MX-5s just my 2 cents

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    So what your saying is that Sam's 20v may have problems idleing?

    Im not entirely sure many people would care much about this. Most modifications come with comprimises, and if a reduced capability to idle is replaced with more power, i know i would make the comprimise!

    When you say the brace, you mean the front strut brace, or the fender braces?

    If this is the case, I'm interested in your reasoning, please elaborate. You cant just site a production car as a precedence, there are many cars that do come with braces from factory which anyone could counter that argument with.

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    ports for flow? I am not sure how that step would help the idle, would you know how? there was a discussion on it a while back and I want to hear another opinion on it.

    With the cracked weld on the exhaust yeah I definately have too much of a fillet in that weld so I won't argue with you on that one there.

    As for the brace as Justin said which brace?
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    i think he meant as in you dont need to brace the extractors to the transmission. (personally i dont care)

    nice port work matey its coming along well

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