choom when I get the chance I will be installing a temp probe in my sump to monitor the temps, I already have everything else setup for it. My concept works on the idea on if whats available doesnt have a capacity then hopefully with my custom design it would have a massive surface area and therefore have the poential ability to disperse the heat better than any stock one. I will have a look at the 3dge ones as I have been told they are beefier than the 5s I have. Also I know its one of those I will do it one day jobs but I want to put a heat sheild on the inside of my extractors, morso for my starter than anything else.