4agte upgrades

[reecegze]

Hey guys i am after ways to modify various things on the motor without opening the bottom or massive headwork and relying on tune to sqeeze more power of the motor. Things like the best t/b to suit the 4age inlet manifold with minimal modification and best results, What size cooler piping you guys running inlets/outlets. Also at what stage does the 4agte motor struggle to make power from airflow problems.

Also anyone that has a standard setup 4agte running 180kw plus with standard inlet please speak up.

Reece

[biggo]

fail

[ke70dave]

starting to agree with biggoo.....

too vague mate :2thumbs:

what is your current setup?
what is your current power?
what is your current ecu?
is the motor getting old?

with your current information all I'm gonna say is get a bigger T

[70XIN]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reecegze @ Aug 17 2008, 02:04 PM) </div>What turbo are you running? Getting above 180rwkw, your first step is that you *have* to have a big enough turbo.

Cams are a fairly good lift/duration as standard, throttle body isn't too bad, but both can still definitely be improved upon.

I used various turbo combinations, all with the same:
-Stock 'bigport' GZE motor
-Bigport manifold, TVIS, throttle body
-Steam pipe manifold
-440cc 7M injectors
-Microtech LTX8
-2" pipe from turbo to cooler
-2 1/2" pipe from cooler to throttle body

And the various turbo combos i used
-T28BB 16psi, 150rwkw (2.5" exhaust)
-T517Z 16psi, 190rwkw (3" exhaust)
-TD06 internal gate rear housing 18psi, 220-230rwkw? (3" exhaust)

Upgrading any throttle bodies are fairly straightforward, XF falcon seems to be very popular, and is a few cm bigger than the GE.

I'd say low to mid 200's a "stock" motor will start to 'run out of airflow', and headporting and cams would be a good upgrade.

[cuzzo]

Id agree with everything said above. You will need to push though atleast 15-20psi to get that on a stock gze with a decent sized turbo.

[350hp4agte]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cuzzo @ Aug 17 2008, 03:20 PM) </div>the throttle body is not gunna make any difference to the power out put of a stock gze with a turbo straped on neither is the size of the cooler piping i used 3" piping on my 20v4agte with stock bottom end and a t25g had full bost of only 7psi at about 3000rpm half an inch is gunna make about 200rpm difference in lag time if that

doing it cheap is no the right way to go save a little more money do alot more reserch b4 ya waist your money dude

[Tyrie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (350hp4agte @ Aug 17 2008, 05:37 PM) </div>I disagree, doing it cheap FTW! I have stock (old smokey pos) bigport GZE, highflow T3, standard bigport inlet without TVIS, standard TB, 2.5" exhaust, all 2" cooler piping, Autronic ecu. I'm just putting 550cc injectors and a sard reg on it now and retuning for 18psi. Will post results when its done (some time this week).

The answer should always be more fuel and more boost

[reecegze]

the turbo is the easy part i am talking about the supporting mods that will allow the motor to get the power more efficiently , motor needs to breathe obviously so this like bigger intake piping and bigger jecotrs is something i think is necessary. I am trying to see other modify 4agte owners cars to get some ideas on cheap FTW setups.

Motor is a 4agte t28 bigport GZE running factory AFM ive just finished my driveline conversion and looking for ideas on setups from more powerful 4agte at the same boost levels. Obviously i can raise the boost when i get the ems but i am wanting to get ideas on intake setups etc etc before i take my motor to get tuned as i want it all at once!

Also there has to be a max power on the 4agte before you gotta open it up , i am just after the limits and supporting mods to reach around there without breaking the fucker

cheers

[reecegze]

Thanks mate thats what i am after


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (70XIN @ Aug 17 2008, 02:59 PM) </div>

[reecegze]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (70XIN @ Aug 17 2008, 02:59 PM) </div>