why are my brakes retarded!?

[drift kid]

Car - toyota ae86

motor -4ac

use -daily

problem - the brakes arent right, like the pedal has heaps of travel but once the brakes engage the pedal is very stiff and the car feels asif it wants to stand on its nose, i have replaced the master and booster and bled the brakes many times, so im pretty annoyed with it all, any ideas frends?

occurs/started when - since i re shelled the car

personal situation (if applicable)- na

[lolwat]

rear drums, adjsut them again, could be the factor your rear cyclinders have to push so far to take up the gap between your shoes and drum, and then once that gaps gone the brake work like a mad ####
wont be master casuing that as if the master was fucked the pedal would go down slowly to the floor, or have a look at the push rod on your pedal and make sure that "travel"isnt just you taking up play cause the push rod isnt pushed out enough, but dont wind it too far, as you will cause other issues (brakes dragging) if you still got issue ill come over either after drifts friday night or something (busy all weekend with jacqui) so doubt ill be able to look on weekend

also there retarded like there owner

[drift kid]

the push rod is perfect so thats not the issue, i cheked that today and the rear drums should be fine, if anything they may be too far adjusted out cause even when pushing the car it seems like the brakes are on a little (no handbrake and in netural obviously) so you rekn it could possibly be that the rear brakes are basically already on and the pedal doesnt travel far cause of this? but then why would they been out of adjustment like that cause i havent messed with them for ages like before the blue car was smashed, doesnt make sense to me

[lolwat]

and pull the R32 master out its way too big and run a prop valve (pretty certain they do) and you have an external prop valve on your strut tower

[ke_70]

^ this. if you've got a bm44 then your going through 2 prop valves.

and what is your setup?

[drift kid]

my setup at the moment is just stock adm ae86 front discs/calipers and stock drums on t18 diff, no braided lines etc, and yeh theres the proportioning valve on the side of the strut, but whys that a problem? Thats a stock part.. And the r32 master should make the brakes feel lighter then no? And im only using that one at the moment because the ae86 one leaks and this one doesnt.

[drift kid]

also i was concidering gutting the prop valve, ive heard that could help maybeee?

[ke_70]

put the 86 one back in. if it leaks spend >$50 on a rebuild kit.

[lolwat]

its not your master, put old one back in

[lolwat]

and did you even check drums???, how long you brake bleed it for