4age cam degree

[&Drew]

hi everyone!
Just wanted to know which cams were better for my cars' set-up before i put the engine in. i want to keep the stock lift (i think 7.9mm for Toyota 4age) and not change the springs/valves and what not. Really new to the whole mechanical side to cars & was sorta lost. im stuck between choosing either 256 or 272 degree cams. i dont know which would suit my car. It will most likely run with ITB's, 4-1 extractors, custom exhaust, aftermarket ecu and possibly adj cam gears. just wanted to know any pros and cons of both and whether having different degree cams for the in & ex will do help? ive been on all the toyota forums i know and looked for days & asked Q's as well to no avail *sighh.
any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers guys & gals

[Jimmee1990]

I don't see why you would want to run ITB's and 4-1's which are suited to a higher rpm range, but run cams with a small amount of lift with stock springs? Just seems a little counter-productive to me. I would have thought cams on the milder side would work far better with 4-2-1's to help in the midrange and a standard inlet manifold would be fine, cheaper too. It all depends on what you want to get out of the engine?

[FoldKing86]

Save your monies and do it right the first time

[&Drew]

oh yeah, im really noob at these sorta stuff but am learning haha. the parts i got were mapart of a package off a mate. if so, what degree cams would you guys reccomend? does that mean i need a shim kit?
hahah yeah trying to do it right the firsat time is the best solution

[&Drew]

should i just buy a 4-2-1 extractor with mild camshafts & an upgrading up-lifter kit? will still run th itbs since i already have it as opposed to rwd inlet manifold.
cheers guys

[Slimer86]

8.1mm 264 HKS cam's are pretty mild, yet with increased compression respond well with quads and (esp.)aftermarket ecu etc.
Set cam timing as per the HKS cam card which comes with them, else search Oldschooltoy on club4ag as he has uploaded them previously.
I wouldn't personally go with any less than 264, its just too little an "upgrade" from stock. Really only benefit coming from increase in lift.

FYI, i am running 264, 256 8.1mm HKS in my daily and its very driveable, with a noticeable torque increase, but probably too conservative for my liking.

>8.3mm lift it is suggested to go under-bucket shims, but else, if you choose cams below this lift, just upgrade the valve springs to toda's, HKS or TRD's when you put the cams in.

[McLEVIN]

Is the valve springs necessary I got hks Cams and I don't think the springs would've been upgraded

[&Drew]

slimer86 - cool, that helped heaps mate!! i was going to go for a 264 IN, 272 EX or vice versa. wondering if thats too much? Also would it be best to use all hks parts or if i interchange with tomei, toda and hks would that be fine as well?
ive got a mate who can supply me with some cheap upgraded hks springs and toda camshafts

[FoldKing86]

Hooks up oh yeah

20v Part Num: 14111-101-022 (272 9.0) quote please

[TODA AU]

Just so you know, 14111-101-022 has been superseeded by 14111-101-023 (272 9.2)
You can still get 14111-101-022 but it'd be back-order.
14111-101-023 is $605 delivered
If you get a better price, let me know & I'll see what I can do to beat it for you.