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    So did you figure out what the main issue was?

    Kinda sucks that a camry engine can be surrounded in mystery. Do you have a spare one lying around? Or better still, a running Camry that you could do some testing on?

    I guess I'm talking about the perfect world here... This is a big project man, so congrats on getting it this far.

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    The main issue was the 2az timing wheel having the reset pulses in the first phase of two engine phases per crank rotation . I didn't realise at the time but it requires either the outputs 1-4 to be wired to the second cylinder of the firing order: from output 1-2-3-4 to cylinder 3-4-2-1 The firing order changes relatively as because of the timing wheel, its unable to fire cylinder 1 from the first pop after reset (which is what the ecu is looking for to know when to fire for the next tdc). This was fixed without wiring through using a feature that adaptronic has called ignition and injection offset. I had spark a consistent 180 degrees out of phase once everything was mechanically in order so that was a powerful diagnosis. It really helped to get the liquid paper out and make a huge timing mark too so that it was easier to spot when it wasnt right by the top as it flashed. Basically spent the last 36 hours exchanging emails with a great guy from adaptronic called Mark Gool.

    I was slowly working it out but he pushed me in the right direction and added the offset.

    I had identified the problem but didn't know if the ecu had some function of the settings to correct this or not. I had assumed it did. I just didn't know exactly how or what function to change aside from hardware swapping the wires. To check trigger settings I made this device to rotate through the angles and check triggering. I noticed the phase sync issue from this:


    Sensor marked on the right, You can see it rotated to the two tdc points and where the missing teeth are, 40 degrees before the start of the second and 4th cylinders in the firing order.






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    Nice socks!

    Does it idle ok? Sounds like it didn't want to idle...

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    Yeah I need to adjust idle air hose size then setup the controller. It Idles but I have a small extra hole open to make it do so.






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    Drove it over to the dyno tuners Yesterday. Holy fuck does it go! It pulls so hard in 5th from about 80klm/hr. Didn't rev it over 4 grand. Was running same timing as a 20v map, and scaled fuel with one round of adjustments and wow, its a rocket. I cant wait to get it back in a day or two all sorted and then straight around to mechanic number two for a correct wheel alignment and then I really need to find ideally some galway rear flares plus 35 mm or something similar, or failing that some 15x8 plus 20s to clear the stock guards on the back. Then its off to Willowbank to ambush some people. I could beat 6 cylinder fg falcons in my 20v ae71, so this thing should scare the V8s.






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    Holy shiiiit!

    What do galway rear flares look like?

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    Just nicely made. Galway UK. Out of production though.






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    Yes! Sounds beefy dude!

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    Tuned.







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