Help id my W5# and adaptor

[jdm86gtz]

Car - Charmant

motor / part in question - W series gearbox

problem - Identification


Bought a W5# and adaptor yesterday and looking to id the gearbox and adaptor bell as I need to get a mounting for this and curious about the bell.
Think the rear of bell to shifter was 21" but forgot to write it down but was told it was a W58 and the center piece is steel













I also got this W5# from a CE70 which has a 19" shifter position is it much of a job to replace shifter setups?
This also needs a mounting.




Thanks for any help.

[Anthony]

FWIW, the adapter is a modified K motor van one from Malaysia. First box could be RA60, second SA63 but really a few possibilities. The trans mount is pretty much universal so no problem there. Any kelpro book can help.

[jdm86gtz]

Thanks. Is it just the NA jza80 W58 that has a different bolt pattern for the mounting, as I fell into that trap before so want to get the right one this time.
No Kelpro here in Ireland unfortunately and cars OE with w5# are scarce enough here.

[Anthony]

yeah any W shifters are interchangeable (apart from the "remote" ones like you said). You have to change the top 6 bolt plate and the selector seat as a set, which requires taking the extension housing off.

12371‑34030 is a genuine number that will work. You guys seem to get genuine parts for next to nothing over there anyway

[Hen may possibly be a nut]

An interesting point I heard: C series motors are basically a diesel S series. This means that the C bellhousing will bolt up to an S engine. So you can sell it to someone doing a RWD 3S conversion.

I haven't checked it myself, but could mean you can get a decent price for that bellhousing.

[Anthony]

The motors are a fair bit different but it is true they have the same bell housing bolt pattern.

[jdm86gtz]

Cheers for both of those.
We get raped for parts compared to the UK that damn Irish must be expensive to cross.
I'll have to keep an eye out for a cheap 3S so, does it mount it upright or at like 60* or whatever the 3S sits at in a Celica etc.?

[biggo]

It mounts it upright, or close enough to to make no matter.

[Sambo NZ]

If you want to run a RWD 3SGE it would be advisable to find yourself the mounts, sump pan and oil pickup from an SA60 or similar RWD 1S or 2S engine. If you try uprighting a 3SGE without the sump and pickup you'll starve it of oil. The easiest option is a Altezza BEAMS engine, already rwd, and improved oil return from the head for being upright and with VVT-i

The box from behind the C engine is most likely to be a W56:


The same as a W55 with shorter first and second to suit the diesel.