Speaker wiring

[yoshimitsu9]

xeleventybillion!

imo thats the first thing that should be done

what 4" speakers are people using? im using some crappy jvc $70 ones from jb hi fi and they really do lack in the loudness department even connect to a 50w rms amp. id use my nice boschman 6.5" mids but dont wanna hack up the nice jdm door card

[sundee]

every single speaker sounds different!. go down your local audio shop get your favourite CD/song.. please no MP3 rubbish.. u want full bandwith audio from a "real" CD.. put it in and listen to it and start pressing the buttons that switch to different speakers.. and choose the ones u like the sound of.

[yoshimitsu9]

yeh i might have to do that, it just seems that there is a lack of decent wattage 4" speakers around, i know that there are models in existence that are around the 50w rms range but your main stream car audio sellers dont stock them (jb, strathfield etc). i have to car audio specialist type places near my place and the price they charge, even for regular brands (pioneer, alpine, jvc etc) is just fucking rediculous. so getting above average speakers at a reasonable price is near on impossible

[sundee]

i would say go a known brand , but in everything, u need to listen to them, it could look like mud but sound like gold...

and BTW the purpose of a 4" is not to be blistering loud.. it more meant for fill.. if u want loud u need an amp.. your head deck hasnt got the grunt to really make those drivers move.
get a cheap 4ch or 6ch amp and rig it up.. then it will pump

[yoshimitsu9]

ive got a pioneer 4x50w rms pioneer amp (generally cant go wrong with pioneer imo) which is hooked up to the 4" speakers (using 2 channels, not bridged) that is high passed and bass turned right down on the head unit as i have a respone 2x150w rms amp with bass adjuster knob for the sub. and seriously these jvc speakers suck balls volume wise, ive also had similarly priced pioneer speakers in the past and they werent a hell of a lot better.

the jvcs only put out like 25w rms any way so its not like their build to pump out massive volume compared to a 6" speaker at say 50-60w rms

[sundee]

i rate the sound of pioneer gear.. eg a mate had this 4 k rockford system in his car.. was homo as.. and it sounded tinny and all valleyed out... no good factory eq of speckers.. imo
i wouldnt turn the bass right down on the head deck.. just use the HPF on the amp.. its prolly set with a knee at 100 - 150 Hz so using the bass roll off in the head unit its doing much.

have u tried using the other 2 ch in the amp to see if it makes a diff.. if yur using an amp and all i would get rid of that old wiring for sure!!

it will make alot of difference... and go from their..

[dave2221]

also a good head unit will do the world of good.

my old car had 6" splits up front (kenwood)

6" splits rear doors and 2x 12" kicker CVR subs (i know ey)

when the kenwood 25th anniverary deck came out i got that and was gong to amp the 6" all round
but having a "competition deck" gave me more adjustablility in the frequencies of teh speakers and i never needed to.

so in my opinion, without a good head unit your wasting money trying to get excellent sound out of the speakres.

[Konakid]

I just got some kenwood headunit, simple thing and some clarion 6x9's. Sounds ok i guess.

[sundee]

agree and disagree.. a good head unit will make alot of difference. but also upgrading your other components in the system even down to wiring will still improve your audio quality.