BEAMS with Blacktop ITBs on standard ECU?

[Powerbite]

Basically iv found a heap of mixed info, so ill ask straight out
So I understand you can run Blacktop ITBs on the BEAMS 3S-GE, but surely you couldnt run it without an aftermarket ECU? Im pretty sure the 3S-GE has an AFM where as the Blacktop doesnt?
If its any help engine in question is an RS200 3S-GE
Cheers, James

[Jdm-Mcc]

Correct, beams runs a AFM where as running B/T quads dont, however S/T quads do. Best bet is just run an adaptronic ecu with a loom to suit.

[Powerbite]

Yeah just as I though, basically id just prefer to run ITBs and trumpets on the 3S-GE with the standard computer but didnt think that was an going to be an option

[Jdm-Mcc]

With nissans you can run a piggy-back chip called a nistune to program the factory computer however im not sure if this sort of option is available for BEAMS?

[AJPS]

you will need an ecu, which will give you cheap power anyway

[Matt]

kaizen do an adaptronic plug n play loom to suit.

[SamsTA22]

Just because it uses an afm doesn't stop you from running ITBs with a plenum...

Didn't TRD make ITBs for the RS200 back when it was new? What ecu did it use then?

[Celica RA45]

they chose a motec to run the engine with the hi comp pistons and big cams etc

[Powerbite]

Bit of a bump, decided to go aftermarket ECU, what would you suggest? (BT quads w/ trumpets) also prices if you have them

Power FC would be my ideal option but I don't think you can program the SXE/RS200 one to run a MAP?

All info appreciate, cheers

[Skylar]

Pfc is a plug and play option. All of them will use all factory sensors. For nissans you can get l-(afm) and d-jetronic(map) models but you can't run map on an l-jet and vice versa. I don't know if the 3s has a d-jet option. You might be able it jerry-rig a gt4 pfc but we're getting far away from plug in ecu.

You can get an adaptronic e420d for a little less than a grand, e440 select for a little over a grand. Halted sprint 500 at around a grand, ps1000 was like 1600 off memory, vipec v44 at ~1200 and v88 at 1800. There is also a lower level ecu at 1200 (link g4atom) which will also do the job sufficiently.

You should be able to get the units a little cheaper if you look around as I'm quoting prices straight off a retail store.

And after all that, go talk to your tuner and see what he wants. Probably the middle range as I don't remember if the haltec supported 4d tuning on the sprint, I'd think it does, I know the adaptronic and link/vipecs do. And you're probably best off using it. Hell, I've got a $500 megasquirt that I'm gonna have to tune myself because no one here probably tunes it. Real easy to figure out though.