Reply With QuoteDefine what is not that much? Fairly bold statement.
well my coupe was 881kg wet with carbon bonnet and rear half of interior gone but with 9 in wheels, beams, 6 speed and F diff. and a 54/46 weight balance. yes they are heavier, but not that much.
Define what is not that much? Fairly bold statement.
not that much means that a few simple weight reduction mods took an 86 with beams motor, 6 speed and 7.5 in diff 40 kgs under list weight.
I dont think its that bold when ive built it, corner weighted it and drifted it
bold would be saying that a beams motor will make an 86 handle badly when you have done none of these
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And I guarantee, all BS aside. that you will have a far bigger smile on your face drifting (or racing etc) a beams powered 86 than a 20V one every time, and that it will be far more reliable.
If that is worth all the extra effort and/or money to you then I say do it.
Last edited by Anthony; 15th July 2009 at 01:23 AM.
What Toyota should of made was a 2ltr, 5 valve, quad throttle, Dual vvt-i engine, with a HUGE redline, now that would be sweet.
Hachiroku since 1994
Originally Posted by LittleRedSpirit
pretty much spot on ant
in all honesty through my mucking around with a 4age, if anything it felt a little light in the front end.
my 3s is a bit heavier, but a fair bit further back,
any weight ballance issues is balanced out with a heavier diff and g box,
the g box is in the middle of the car so it doesnt really effect much,
as ant said, 4age can do pretty much anything, as shown by a fair few people,
but a beams is taking that same principle, and extending it in all the right places,
more torque where the 4age needs it, more power in general, more reliability, more usability etc.
Last edited by driftke70; 15th July 2009 at 01:31 AM.
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Isn't the BEAMS close enough to that. Huge revs are unnecessary, it's a bit of a wank factor really, if you can produce the power under 8 you are keeping a reliable engine.
Not really, imagine a nice flat torque curve from low rpm to high rpm
revs and torque = more hp
make it shorter stroke to keep piston speed down.
my bike has virtually a flat torque curve from 6000rpm to 14,200rpm, fires two cylinders 35deg apart of each other(big bang) and the power feels fantastic
Hachiroku since 1994
yeah some runs i would swear im around 7-7500, felt sorta "fun" like those revs. then you watch in car and its all 4500-5500.
you might think theyre a wank factor, but I bet if you drove one youd think differently.
yes 20V's are reliable, obvisouly the A motor is one of the all time best for that. but in comparison I would say that a beams (sorry - wanky, I mean SXE10 3SGE) is more reliable and does what it does with less stress.
If I were doing a conversion into my 86 again, I'd go BEAMS
Hachiroku since 1994
No I didn't mean wank factor as in the BEAMS being one.
I meant having revs like 10,000rpm +. Sorry if it was put the wrong way.
And I can definitely imagine it being awesome fun, the torque missing in the 4AG is a real bummer, but it's just the overall weight that I don't agree with, and of course, it is countered by the extra power but that's just me, not saying it shouldn't be done.
I'm just very eager to see the weight of both engines next to each other which no one has been able to answer with straight numbers.
Last edited by ae86hachiroku; 15th July 2009 at 01:49 AM.
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