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ae71
18th July 2007, 01:54 PM
hey,
I heard a rumor that a 4age oil cooler sandwich plate will fit straight in on a 4ac is this correct? if it dose would I be correct in thinking that other sandwich plates that suit 4ag would also fit 4ac (16v ones)?
I would really rather one that had a inlet and outlet on the sandwich plate as I'm not keen on drilling my sump for a return line, dose a standard one have inlet/outlet on the plate?
also would a drop in oil small drop of oil pressure due to the oilcooler be harmful?
thanks, there has been a lot of questions in the past about oil coolers etc I know, I got a lot of results on my search, but I didnt get the answers if was after.
v-tec
18th July 2007, 02:15 PM
don't think anything that fits on 4age would fit on 4ac, as the 4ac oil filter (and there for the port) is a lot larger.
My sandwhich plate is straight off a 20v, so it would also be vice versa if thats one of your questions.
Hope that helps a little
rthy
18th July 2007, 02:30 PM
get one of those aftermarket ones
ae71
18th July 2007, 02:44 PM
so thats a no go on the 4age/4ac being the same?
I want to pay as little as possible alsong is has and inlet and outlet on the plate.
anyone recomend a brand/model I wonder if they would even make one for 4ac... possably in america
edit*must be cheap as possible, just needs to be that^^
biggo
18th July 2007, 02:49 PM
a sandwich plate is just that, it get sanwiched between the oil filter and block. FYI most aftermarket oil cooler kits come with a 3/4" metric hole which fits toyota/nissan/ford/holden
also a 4ac wont need an oilcooler.
oh yair and it's winter!
Hen is a total nutcase
18th July 2007, 03:07 PM
I'd be very suprised if 4AC and 4AGE oil fittings were different. Though I can't check til this evening. Maybe someone could cross reference the filters used.
Only the factory bypass cooler returns to the sump. All (ok, most) aftermarket setups use a full flow cooler.
Hen
ae71
18th July 2007, 03:28 PM
a sandwich plate is just that, it get sanwiched between the oil filter and block. FYI most aftermarket oil cooler kits come with a 3/4" metric hole which fits toyota/nissan/ford/holden
also a 4ac wont need an oilcooler.
oh yair and it's winter![/b]
not what I asked was it..? I wasnt asking for opinions on where is was nessesary. yes I know it's winter, I also live in tassie. just preparing for summer. I'm also going to be doing more track days and continuing with my hills work.
I'd be very suprised if 4AC and 4AGE oil fittings were different. Though I can't check til this evening. Maybe someone could cross reference the filters used.
Only the factory bypass cooler returns to the sump. All (ok, most) aftermarket setups use a full flow cooler.
Hen[/b]
thats what I thought, I would check myself bu I don't have a sandwich plate handy and I don't know nayone who would or I would do this myself:P
that would be good if you could check for me.
Jonny Rochester
18th July 2007, 07:26 PM
I have to disagree with v-tech.
A standard oil cooler sandwich plate from a AE82 or AE95 or AE92 corolla will fit a 4A-C. To use this you also need a return hole in the sump. You are best to take the sump off, drill a big hole, and weld a nut to the inside of the hole.
Otherwise use a full flow aftermarket sandwich plate.
A Z386 oil filter will fit almost every Toyota car.
Dave
18th July 2007, 09:16 PM
early 4age and 4ac are same block :S no reason why it shuldnt fit
Nikkojoe
18th July 2007, 11:55 PM
I removed my standard adm sandwich plate on my ge cause I did not have a cooler at the time. I un-screwed the oil filter/sandwich plate fitting bolt, and removed the sandwich plate. I then unscrewed the 4ac oil filter fitting bolt and fitted it to the 4age. Then blocked up the return line with a closed bit of hose. Therefore, in answer to your question yes it will fit.
JDMJNKY
19th July 2007, 11:40 AM
THERE BOTH A 4A BLOCK THEY WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME
ae71
20th July 2007, 07:37 PM
THANK YOU
I was looking in a oil filter caterlog and it listed 4ac and 4ag filters as diffrent models, they did how ever list ae71 wagon and 4ag ones the same.
I think I will go the aftermarket option so I can have the return line back to the filter, save taking the sump off. it can also be unbolted and removed easly if need be.
any one recomend places to get them cheap..? just jap etc?
harmsup_jai
20th July 2007, 08:25 PM
I was looking in a oil filter caterlog and it listed 4ac and 4ag filters as diffrent models, they did how ever list ae71 wagon and 4ag ones the same.[/b]
Yeah, Z158 and Z386. Same Thread, Same Gasket Diameters, Different sized bodies. They're interchangeable
ae71
21st July 2007, 08:50 PM
I changed the oil filter last night, seems that I actually had a 4age filter on it so I know now first hand that 4age/4ac filters are asicly the same exept for as you said the 4ac one has a slightly larger body.
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