Route 6 close ratio 4th and 5th gears???

[253_rolla]

Hi guys,how are you all been up to?!..anyway as topic.

Yeah one my friend own a AE86 and he told he's car gear has Route 6 close ratio 4th and 5th gears,and than ask him he's dosent really him self too said just been told by the seller!!

So if anyone know what is it or thinkit is what it is feel free to post here!!

Thanx.!!

[riceburner]

You wanna re-write that jibberish so we can understand what your on about.

I can only think your saying your mate got told he has close ratio 4th and 5th gears and he was asked where the gears came from.

And your mate says he doesnt know where they came from.

So what is your question.

[253_rolla]

My question what if my factory jdm 86 has a close ratio 4th and 5th gears(in a gearbox)....so is that oem that 86 has a close ratio 4th and 5th gears???

[RobertoX]

4th and 5th are already closer than the average tasmanian family

any closer and it gets really creepy!

[Hen is a total nutcase]

There is no way of changing the "ratio" of 4th gear without some serious box modifications. 4th just rigidly connects the input and output shafts.

I feel you and/or your friend have been lead astray.

Hen

[253_rolla]

Route 6 will be the brand name, and what this means is that the gear ratio for 4th and 5th gear will be lower. That means that for example rather than being geared to do say 250kph in 5th gear at maximum rpm (which you'd never get to use) it is geared lower, that way you will be able to use the gears more and keep the car in the power band more at high speeds rather than being geared really high. The downside is that the revs might be slightly higher at highway cruising speeds in 5th gear, so it might use a little bit more petrol.

[253_rolla]

That means that for example rather than being geared to do say 250kph in 5th gear at maximum rpm (which you'd never get to use) it is geared lower, that way you will be able to use the gears more and keep the car in the power band more at high speeds rather than being geared really high.[/b]

The whole point is that(above quote)

And whats the point of people make close ratio gearboxs than???

[samuel]

Only the ones who post in other people's topics and act like fuckheads

I'll deal with this thread later

keep it ontopic or find a new forum to postwhore on

[Jonny Rochester]

DK86: people are trying to tell you that you can not actualy change the ratio of 4th gear in a normal gearbox. This is because 4th gear ratio is 1:1, as the input and output shafts are locked together.

But there is a way. If you get a very low gear ratio for 5th gear, even lower than 1:1, then the 5th gear effectively becomes the 4th gear. 1:1 becomes 5th gear. To work this the gearshift pattern is out. You have to put the stick up in 5th gear position to get 4th gear etc.

But no one has heard of Route 6. Maybe you can tell us the gear ratios and whether they are straight cut or helicoil gears.

[253_rolla]

http://www.route6.co.jp/

There web sit,me myself dont know much about them.


But there is a way. If you get a very low gear ratio for 5th gear, even lower than 1:1, then the 5th gear effectively becomes the 4th gear. 1:1 becomes 5th gear. To work this the gearshift pattern is out. You have to put the stick up in 5th gear position to get 4th gear etc.[/b]

Jonny Rochester:So will it be more hard to drive?....what your saying do you mean the would feels like it only has 4 gear??....than for these kind of setup whats it good for??

Thanx

[253_rolla]

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[253_rolla]

But no one has heard of Route 6. Maybe you can tell us the gear ratios and whether they are straight cut or helicoil gears.[/b]

This car has a ROUTE 6 GEAR(LINK below)

http://ae86.pro-imports.ie/001.shtml

[Hen is a total nutcase]

OK, having a look at those sites it looks like 5th gear is 1:1. Usually 4th is 1:1. It is also a full 2-5 gearset change by the looks of it.

And doing the sums, every gearshift is (bloody close to) the same percentage ratio change, which would be good for racing. So if your friend has that in the box of his racecar then he's done well.

Probably not particularly useful on a road car, but whatever floats your boat.

Hen

[Driftspec]

Without looking at the links provided (and avoiding calling the multiple posts what they are) the 4th gear is 1:1, and 5th is something like 0.86. The gear ratios in the T-50 are fairly close as they are. Moving to something like the W58 gearbox may prove different. Not to mention the easiest way to increase your drive ratios is, of course, to change the final ratio in the diff.

Doing gearbox modifications are very difficult and very expensive... have seen quotes for straight cut gears (dog gears) in Subaru gear boxes for something like $500 a gear... probably not worth the money and effort.

Hang on, does that Route 6 stuff declare 5th as 1:1? If so, that would make it suck for pretty much all forms of driving...