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ThatsHowWeRoll
17th April 2009, 02:58 PM
Hi guys,
Starting to plan my next project which is gonna be an MX83 cressida. jap vip style.
Have been thinking about the motor side and want to do something different and wanna go natro power. Straight six with exhaust, intake, cams maybe. engine bay wiring hiden...
Anyone have experience with the natro 2jz-ge?? Are they still a worthy motor natro?? Would it be that much better than 7mge??
And what manual boxes can you fit to them??
Cheers,
Deano
ae86
17th April 2009, 03:11 PM
how much u planning to spend ? theres a guy down in vic selling a 1jz mx83 for 7k if u feel that will save u time and money
ThatsHowWeRoll
17th April 2009, 06:31 PM
i want to start with a stock standard car this time and make it to my tastes.....i want to build it myself this time.
Not to worried about cost...i would spend up to 5g on an engine swap and a bit more on for the GB. Just want to know if the jz is worth the swap over the 7m?
Hen may possibly be a nut
17th April 2009, 07:00 PM
I like 2JZs alot more than 7Ms, but then again it involves a lot of work to fit one to an MX83 when there is already a 7M in there. With that money and time you could get the 7M strong and reliable.
Also bear in mind that it costs quite a bit to get a manual gearbox behind a JZ engine. You can make W58, R154 og V160 fit with varying difficulty and expense.
So while I like the idea, I'm not sure it'd ever be worth it. Though you'll have to decide that for yourself.
Hen
dr1ft-pig
18th April 2009, 01:30 AM
go w58 man, eaaasy as to make a bellhousing to fit it, i have a few w bellhousings laying around that u can get cut n shut
or w55s are worth like 330 from a wrecker, pm me if yu wanna know where, i know where theres a few ;)
Hen may possibly be a nut
18th April 2009, 01:54 AM
There's also a factory JZ-> W58 bellhousing (from NA JZA80) but they are hard to find, or around $400 new genuine.
ThatsHowWeRoll
18th April 2009, 10:11 AM
cheers for the info fellas....have given me something to think about.
sounds like the GB will be the most stuffing around...is it the same deal if i stuck with the 7mge with the GB choices?
cool beans.
Konakid
18th April 2009, 11:45 AM
Motorfix did a build up of one in an GX73 for a customer. check the build thread here to find out what you need, should be fairly similar?
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.motorfix.jp/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmotorfix%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa% 3DG
slydar
18th April 2009, 11:55 AM
you will also need a sump swap. all na 2js are mid sump, and you need a front sump.
having said that. na 2js are awesome. na jza80s are actually pretty fast, 14sec 1/4s fast.
i would go 2j. think is like, even manual bellhousings/flywheel ect for 7ms arent actually cheap/easy to get really so you will be spending money there regardless.
patience
18th April 2009, 05:15 PM
Cams are hard to find for a NA 2jz from what I remember when I was a supra owner, there were alot of NA guys wanting to do built motors but the massive lack of aftermarket cams was stopping this so they just sold up and bought 2jzgtes.
This may have changed in the 2.5 years since I owned one, but the only ones I remember were custom items for a group buy and they were big dollars.
There were alot of pus extractors floating around too so be careful.
As slydar said, there were a few boys doing high 14s in their NAs. Just get a 1jz tbh though, unless you are really set on atmo and want to be different.
Konakid
18th April 2009, 05:35 PM
JUN or HKS make cams for them , cant remember who
ThatsHowWeRoll
18th April 2009, 05:53 PM
sweet as sugar..
Want to stay natro to be different and i like to drive cars flat out and boost doesn't suit that to well in a street car.... plus i love the look of a neat natro engine bay.
given me heaps to think about guys,
Wat do the 2jzge's go for? 800-1000 im thinking, they seem a little hard to find though.
Konakid
18th April 2009, 11:03 PM
Well they came in N/A JZA80's obviously but also IS300 lexus's.
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