What I need for a drift KE70?

[Raziel]

I will take a 4agte engine.
Which suspension can I take? The same as AE86 or from Techno Toy Tuning?
Which gearbox can I take? W55, w58 or T50?
Which cardan shaft can I take from gearbox to the rear axle?
Which rear Adel with LSD can I take for 300hp?
Which Brake disc for 15 inch wheels can I take?
Thanks for a answer :-)
Sorry for my bad English

[Matt]

Welcome and thank you for asking the questions.

T50 = No good, it will break. Diff you should get a YR22 tarago one modified to fit your car.

W58 = Very Good ( will not break, need a niteparts bellhousing to connect to 4age engine)

[jakel]

Being in germany volvo diffs are quite strong and should be reasonably easy get over there? Unsure what model thougg

[Raziel]

Is a hilux diff to slightly?

[jakel]

I've got a hilux diff in 2 of my T18's but probably overkill with a 4age turbo.

[Raziel]

Ok and is it possible the Supra MK3 Diff to suit in a Corolla with the supra MK3 gearbox (NA)?

[jakel]

I don't think so, I think the MK3 supras are the MA/GA/JZA70s which are independent rear suspension. If you have MK1 supras in Germany you can bolt that diff into a ke70 with some adapters from technotoytuning.com

[Raziel]

Gives an other options?

[Raziel]

where have build a KE70 Turbo with 4agte and other gearboxand and diff?

[LittleRedSpirit]

I will take a 4agte engine.
Which suspension can I take? The same as AE86 or from Techno Toy Tuning?
Which gearbox can I take? W55, w58 or T50?
Which cardan shaft can I take from gearbox to the rear axle?
Which rear Adel with LSD can I take for 300hp?
Which Brake disc for 15 inch wheels can I take?
Thanks for a answer :-)
Sorry for my bad English

Hello.
I suggest coilovers made from ra40 struts. This gives you a bigger lifespan of bearings and smoother high speed operation thanks to a big bearing.

Use stock ra40 front brakes to begin with, as they are a good upgrade from ke70. Just overhaul them. Caliper bracket is removeable, so upgrades are not too hard to organise on ra40 strut.

Use any shock you like, look at ae86 options from TRD, KYB etc or swap to dampers from other cars like SW20 MR2, AE92 Corolla, ST185-205 Celica. They are short stroke options.

Most parts from ae86 floorpan will fit, except for the gearbox crossmember. Substitute freely.

Use an aftermarket Bellhousing to connect w55/57/58 to 4age block. Niteparts, or there are others around, most people use the niteparts one.

Tailshaft will be a custom hybrid of the front half that suits the tranny, and the rear half with the diff flange. I suggest taking these parts to a driveline shop and having them mated and balanced there. Use a 1 piece shaft if you are gong to lower the car a lot and align the gearbox and diff fairly well, otherwise stick with 2 piece.

The diff could be anything really, its just a matter of picking one with a lot of what you need. Some people care about keeping the stud pattern original, others do not. You can get a diff from any car. Just pick one with hydraulically similar brakes to your original 19.6mm bore drum brakes and go from there. Look for something short enough to go into the car, so you can still run nice looking dished wheels and not widen the track unduly. Consider what is available as far as aftermarket centres for the diff you choose, as a stock LSD is good but wont take a thrashing like a Kaaz 2 way will long term.

I use an F series toyota rear end, but Im looking around 200hp max with that and 230NM torque approx so it should last. It has a 7.5 inch crownwheel. It comes from a MX13-23 corona. Which is an odd six cylinder mid 70s Corona, designed to compete with the more powerful Nissans at the time.

Toyota Diffs are highly reccomended. The MK 2 corona diff gives the right overall width ( well plus 6mm in truth) but its the closest you can get without shortening one from a Tarago, and the correct stud pattern. It fits Lexus altezza or MA61 LSD diff centres and gears as they are also F series. Usually IRS diffs can be gutted to put the centre in a live axle housing. A lot of people use 8 inch or larger E and G series diffs (commonly referred to as Hilux diffs). Some people lock them, some people look for 4wd type lsd options, others just use whatever stock lsd they come with.

[AJPS]

living in germany this year I realised how blessed we are with old toyota parts

the OP will have to buy from overseas most likely

[Raziel]

I have surch in some forum and they mean the R31 Diff is a god option.
Is that ok or give a better option? how big is the brake disc from the R31 and has it a 4x114,3 PCD?
Can i Take for the front a nissan 200sx brake disc (280x22) with Wilwood Calipers?
cheers

[japlish]

euro style parts,

use 200sx or silvia front hubs, struts,coilovers
gearbox use this adaptor http://www.rwdmotorsport.com/Bellhousings/Toyota-4AGE-to-Ford-Gearbox-Bellhousing/prod_58.html
diff use a volvo 240

different stud patterns but who cares it's a drift car???

[Raziel]

i need a 4x114,3 diff housing
i have buy the wheels for this :D

[japlish]

get them redrilled?

[Raziel]

What you mean?sorry but my English is very bad.

[AJPS]

he means get wheels that are in the stud pattern (pcd) for the volvo diff

or get an engineer to re drill the wheels to suit

[Raziel]

is a nissan s13 complete rear axel possible to install in a KE70?

[japlish]

you will spend more getting a s13 diff to fit then using a volvo diff with modified axles.

[Raziel]

Ok and a hilux diff has 5 stud,too?

[Raziel]

Or is that shit?
Speedhunters have take a GS130 diff for the build up. Is that possible?


Can the ford typ 9 f gearbox handle over 300PS?

[Raziel]

Suit the yn58 rear axle in a ke70? It is from year 1985

[johnnyboy_84]

The diff could be anything really, its just a matter of picking one with a lot of what you need. Some people care about keeping the stud pattern original, others do not. You can get a diff from any car. Just pick one with hydraulically similar brakes to your original 19.6mm bore drum brakes and go from there. Look for something short enough to go into the car, so you can still run nice looking dished wheels and not widen the track unduly. Consider what is available as far as aftermarket centres for the diff you choose, as a stock LSD is good but wont take a thrashing like a Kaaz 2 way will long term.

I use an F series toyota rear end, but Im looking around 200hp max with that and 230NM torque approx so it should last. It has a 7.5 inch crownwheel. It comes from a MX13-23 corona. Which is an odd six cylinder mid 70s Corona, designed to compete with the more powerful Nissans at the time.

Toyota Diffs are highly reccomended. The MK 2 corona diff gives the right overall width ( well plus 6mm in truth) but its the closest you can get without shortening one from a Tarago.
How much is a yr22 diff out by? Just about to purchase one for mine as need something to stand up to power. It was under my impression you just needed to reeled brackets on it then all sweet? Sorry to jump in on your thread.
John.

[Raziel]

I have surch in the other forums and find that other members use a pajero diff.
Which parts I need for this?
Need I the drive shafts from pajero?

[Gorgi]

A g series hilix diff would be nice. U dont want anything too massive depending on what sort of build your going for. But if you move away from certain diff models you may lose aftermarket support for 1.5way or aggressive 2way diff centers. And then you have studd patern so if you have wheels youd probably want to use them. Research carefully on the diff the axle and stub pattern and length. U dont want to pay extra to shorten a diff or whatever witchcraft they pull.

Try upgrading gearbox and diff at the same time so youbl only make 1 custom tailshaft.

[Raziel]

Yes I looking for a w5* Box and a adapter.

And I will take a Pajero axle or a H100 axle.

What thing you about this?

[Big T]

Volvo 240 series diff. 1400 wide and comes standard with twin piston calipers. There are 2 different versions of the diff. The later one is a 7.6" ring and pinion and is the one you want. Being a Dana diff, there are multiple options for lsds. The only downside is it needs to be redrilled to 4x114.3. It has some silly 5x108 pattern or something.

[Raziel]

What is late version?
Is it a different between diesel and petrol?
What needs all to be rebuilt?

[Raziel]

How can i build up a AE86 coilver in a KE70 with Big Brake kit from AE86

what must i changed? can you give me some pictures what i need or links?

[VikingDrift]

Best diff is rn20 hilux, same width as stock. Don't cannibalise mk2 coronas! Fuck, they're heaps cooler than bloody ke70s.. :(

W55/w58 box with hilux diff man, best way to go. Don't bother with LSD either, waste of money.

[Raziel]

Hi there
I have buy a custom rear axle from lajos (xtr Hungary) with the 5 link kit.
It looks good :-) http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/6y3asy6a.jpg

Here is the axle in my KE70 http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/utyte5u6.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/8uparemu.jpg

The fronthttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/6e7eha4y.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/de4ame4a.jpg

I need some info for the gearbox mounting (w58)
And a manifold like this http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/4e5u6ude.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/ta3ybupe.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/y9e6u8u4.jpg

Can everybody help me?cheers Martin

[Futo_gt86]

Martin,
There is no off the shelf W5x gearbox mount (that I know of) as there are a few different ways to couple the box to a 4A engine.
Example: Nights bellhousing position is different to W5x series T50 adapter plate.

Below is one forum members ingenuity.
This is for a xE7x Panel van (think its an AE71), so not quite the same, but will give you an idea of what can be done rather simply with a bit of thought and effort.


Stolen from MAXHAG Pano build.

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/1/1/507569.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/maxhag/media/AE71%20Panelvan/20130426_180208_zps8befa510.jpg.html)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/1/1/507570.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/maxhag/media/AE71%20Panelvan/20130430_141538_zps36dd226a.jpg.html)

http://www.ae86drivingclub.com.au/dcimages/1/1/1/507571.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/maxhag/media/AE71%20Panelvan/20130430_141632_zps028e2096.jpg.html)

Food for thought.

With the turbo manifold, IF you are looking for an off the shelf item PM username AJPS (Dave) of these forums and he should be able to get you what you need.
http://www.ajps.com.au/parts/kelway_turbo_manifolds.php

You will need to know what turbo you have?
And what is the flange that bolts to the exhaust manifold.
Example: T28 from Nissan S15 with T2 flange.
Get this information first before you PM Dave.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
Ali

[drift kid]

Lol that is terrible, I'd love to scrape those bolts off

[Raziel]

What is terrible?

[Raziel]

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