Sally Joshie's ra60 coupe!

[Joshie_Mcslide]

Since the stock exhaust was toast,I replaced it with a 2 1/4" system with a lukey sports muffler.....and put a chrome tip on it that I found laying around the shop,sounds alright but I'm on the lookout for a cheap second hand set of extractors for 22re(if there's any difference?)

I've decided I am going to swap the 22re I have here after all....noticed a lot of oil on the 21r,but thought it was weird it didn't have any visible leaks? Then realized it didn't have any oil in it,lol.....so I filled it up,and then came the spots! or patches in this case!
I can safely say she's fucked and not worth fixing!

Not sure If I'll go all the way with the fuel injection or source the parts needed to change it to carbi.....either way,its a temp motor to get me through until I have some more funds to do something worthwhile!

I'll try to get some pics as it comes along

[Joshie_Mcslide]

I've Been thinking about this....just wondering why I'd need to use the W57 box & sa63 bell housing etc? I mean.....why couldn't I just use the std 6 speed box behind the beams? is it simply because of the shifter location or is there something else I'm missing?
I'd obviously need to fabricate a gearbox cross member and have a custom tailshaft made....and no doubt re wire plugs for reverse lights etc on the gearbox.......but is there a reason I can't do it that way? would the shifter come out somewhere in the back seat floor or something that's just not practical? lol......Just curious,cos I mean.....6 gears is gotta be better than 5 right?
and when I first started modding cars years ago I played around with a few datsuns.....and we had to cut new holes in the floors of 1600's and stanza's and make up crazy banana shaped cross members to run the stronger 240k gearbox's.....I kind of assumed it would be the same deal with this and far from impossible?

school me! haha

Anyway,I've been fixing the car up slowly over the past few weeks...removed the rusty mudflaps and the trims along the sills then painted bellow the doors black so it makes a clean line right through from the guards to the q/panels.....looks a lot better!
Also had a bit of rust I had to get rid of and clean up but its turned out pretty good.
otherwise no really exciting news sorry.....it's still stock as fuck atm,cleaned up the old 21r-c tho,and fixed an oil leak from the crank seal....only to find it was also leaking from the oil pump gasket,*Face palm*

been having second thought on not dropping the 22re in it tho......it's just a heaps cleaner engine,but I'm not to keen on swapping out fuel lines n looms etc for the efi so I'm thinking about fitting a 22r manifold & carb then swapping the dizzys for vacuum advance.
obviously an elec fuel pump too since the 22re doesn't have the cam lobe for the mechanical pump...I'm pretty sure that's all there is to it tho?
It'll just be a thrash around donk for the time being while I source parts etc for a conversion.......might put a cam in it and tinker around with the head tho,possibly slap a weber on an some extractors.....nothing too serious,but it should get me by for now.
Anyway.....I'll try to snap some more pics today,looked at the few that I have n thought "hmmm,looks kinda shitty" hahaha

Until then

Josh

[Seventy]

I think everyone just assumed that you were thinking of getting a beams without a gearbox so thats why people suggested the w57, also I believe the beams 6 speed gearboxs are expensive?? Also the shifter shouldnt sit that far back anyway
And im led to believe the sa63 gear will be an almost bolt in affair meaning that the gearbox and engine will be in the standard position, therefor meaning you wont need custom mounts, gearbox crossmember or even tailshaft I spose. Essentially taking a sa63, taking the 2sc out and replacing with a 3sge
This is just my understanding, maybe someone else can shed so light?

[Joshie_Mcslide]

So far,finding a manual sa63's been unsuccessful....seen two auto's but yea,no luck as of yet.....anyway,turns out I've decided to whack the 22re from the corona in it for now.......minus the E in 22r/e tho.....I can't be fucked swapping over fuel tanks n lines and changing the engine loom etc just to run the efi, so I Picked up a complete 22r head with manifold,carbi & fuel pump etc for $100.
I'll be pulling the 22re out,swapping the head and dizzy etc. over the next few weeks to run the carbi setup.....chuck a weber n some extractors on it to squeeze out as much power as I can for the time being....Depending on weather the sale of my mira goes through or not,I may also get the cam I posted the link for & some double valve springs and so on...fit it all up in the same job.
I'm not expecting it to be a super fast race engine or anything but it should make a big improvement over the tired old 21r-c!

Had a bit of a sketch last night too.....because Fuck photoshop!
lowered the suspension,fitted some fat rims and added some spoilers n shit......come up alright.

So anyway.....that's pretty much it at this stage,sorry for my lack of pics....but yeah,nothing really worth getting pics of as it's still stock as....hence the drawing,hahaha
Peace out.

[joeschmo_57]

Is that the same 22r that is always in older hilux's? Because even putting a weber on them is a waste Of time. My mate had a hilux with a 22r. Slower than my stock 4k at the time

[Joshie_Mcslide]

That's mostly because it was a hilux dude......and Toyota used them up until 92 or 94,the later ones are better.....It's exactly the same engine as a 22re in a corona or ra65 but with a carbi,and I'm not just putting a weber on it and expecting power...they need a cam and extractors too so they breath better.
It's an upgrade from what I have,and I've been forced to do it because the 21r-c in it now has a few terminal oil leaks and I can't get it passed RWC.....Like I said,I'm not expecting a big power upgrade,just a respectable and reliable heart beat to get me through.

[Wagon86]

Good to see ur going through with the 22r. Should be a good little up grade. Im still tempted about that cam. Could be fun.
Should be an easy swap. Will the 21r bell housing bolt up to the 22r.?

[Joshie_Mcslide]

Pretty sure the bell housings are the same...I think the only real difference between the 21r-c and a 22r is the bore size.
But if for some reason they did slightly change the gearbox bolt pattern,I have another W57 box in the parts corona anyway.

Good times ahead,I can't wait to finally get it on the road!
I had a guy look over it for me the other week....a pre inspection,inspection,lol....pointed out a few things that needed fixing/tidying up and I've pretty much got it sorted....once I drop the 22r in it should pass the road worthy without an issue!

I'll take some snaps when I start ripping into it......so until then!

Peace.

[ill-minded]

If you're pulling the head off the motor, replace the timing chain, guides, etc.

Also, for what it's worth, all 22Rs are pretty bland because the intake ports choke at 130CFM because of the swirl port design, so they make no power over 4-4.5k. Camshaft and exhaust upgrades help, but don't really fix the problem.

Here's a pretty picture that highlights what I'm talking about.

[Joshie_Mcslide]

I'm all over replacing the timing chain,I've done one before without taking the head off,but I know it's the Achilles heal of the 22r's and would definitly need to happen sooner or later anyway.
On the whole no power after 4500rpm thing......that's why I want to get that cam claiming a 1500-7600 rev range using a stock head.
I've abused a stock 22re before,so I'm well aware of there limitations......just the idea of 7600rpm from a 22r had me thinking "bullshit"
but at the same time I was pretty curious to test one out!
we'll see I guess.....